From: Joseph D. Phillips (josephdphillips@fastmail.us)
Date: Fri Aug 13 2004 - 12:40:28 GMT-3
Congratulations, and thanks much for the advice.
I must have a learning disability too -- I've flunked four times.
Mostly I work long hours and don't have enough energy for quiet
contemplation and concentration on the difficult topics.
Five attempts -- very good, Mr. Router!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Router" <route2hell@hotmail.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 08:27
Subject: Passing at RTP #13784
> Well I passed,
> After a long trip starting in Dec 2001 passing the written exam, I finally
> passed on the 5th time. I would like to thank my wife for putting up with
> my many hours of studying.
>
> The path you take to get your certification is much more important then
the
> # after your name, there are many important use full and some very useless
> knowledge to gain.
>
> I am have to thank the following people Victor my first lab partner,
Louis,
> Chi, Sam and lastly Vickas for helping through what was for me harder then
> college.
>
> I made it in 5 attempts which are above the average of 3.8 attempts most
> people take I think. I have a learning disability which made it extra
hard
> to do the tests but I passed the same exam every one else has passed.
Many
> people pass whom speak english as a second language which i feel can be a
> problem to them and I feel they deserve extra credit as well. But the
Cisco
> language of the exam is another language apart from any English its so
> tricky its must be a dialect of the Mircosoft MCSE English .
>
> What I have to say about people who wish to pass:
>
> Have lots of rack time buy equipment for at least the base on your rack
> (its cheaper now then when I started)
> 6 routers a 1 frame relay hub and a 2924 or 3550 switch
> 1 or 2 back bone routers
> and a console server cisco or cyclades.
> also becarefull only the 2600 or 3600 series and up routers support some
QOS
> and IP v6 after Jan 05
> -----------buying rack time for 3550s and atm and voice is good saves you
> money------------------------- Read many books: the router and switch
field
> manuals (new books from cisco ) the secutity field guide, the cisco
> multicast book, parkhursts BGP and OSPF and the eigrp command references
and
> soleys practial studies. Read and find it on the document CDROM too.
>
> Do not rely on IP expert labs as anything but practice they are good I
like
> the Boson CCIE series better then ip expert which has greatly improved
from
> its single topology lab that change very little.
>
> The greatest advantage you have is this: the Document CDROM the sole
source
> of every question on the exam has to come from some where in maze of
> documents not directly all the times :) (I think dont know this to be
true
> but a good 90% of it)
>
> But another golden rule is to make friends whom are CCIEs or CCIE
candidates
> or just strong Cisco Gurus, contacts will help you in understand what you
> are doing wrong even if you are doing it correctly. Most of these people
may
> become friends after the CCIE is reached too. I could not have passed with
> the help of my friends. The beatles song I get by with a little help
from
> my friends
>
> Understand you need help in some topics is important, others will come
> easy from your job or reading and doing. But dont let the basic practice
> labs or questions stop you from digging deep into topic like ISIS or
DLSW.
> Know all the core stuff first OSPF, EIGRP , RIP ISDN , Frame relay ATM and
> ISIS. Then move on to the QOS, 3550s, IOS secrets, DLSW, security and
> Multicast. Its easier to start from layer 2 to layer 3 then to the
advance
> topics. Crawl before you walk.!!! Dont take a Boot camp lab out and
start
> typing commands in without knowing frame relay, CIDR and basic IGP and
BGP.
> Take notes, organize your notes print it out and binder it.
>
> Having a CCNP/CCDP doesnt equal CCIE candidate.
>
> Taking the lab
>
> Plan a head two months before the lab schedule at least 2 to 4 hours a day
> to study and practice full labs only a few days a week. Over 4 times a
week
> will burn you out quick.!!
> Relax the days before the exam reading your well kept notes.
>
> Test your lab at home and in the lab
> Then be able to test with the TCLSH commands !!! and reread the exam,
> remember to skip questions that are low points when you need the time to
> check your exam.
> Points = time
>
> Don't quit !!! Most people fail on the first attempt!!!
> Take it again after you fail dont give in!!
> I dont agree with boot camps that know what exam you will get and force
you
> to learn the Cisco way to pass and take your $$$ the path to the ccie is
> more important then the # you get.
> The # verifies what you know but learning doesnt stop there!!
> I respect the many people whom passed and the many who yet to pass the
CCIE.
>
> But I respect every one who tries and the people who help.
>
> Best of luck to everyone and thanks to all the people on group study
> Thanks Boson, thanks Waffle house in RTP, many thanks to my friends out
> there..
>
> Steve R @ RTP
> #13784
>
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