From: laurent.metzger@bt.com
Date: Fri Aug 13 2004 - 13:05:39 GMT-3
Congratulations, Mr Router, a pre-destined last name :-)
LAA Metzger
#13538
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of Steve Router
Sent: Fri 8/13/2004 4:27 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
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Subject: Passing at RTP #13784
Well I passed,
After a long trip starting in Dec 2001 passing the written exam, I finally
passed on the 5th time. I would like to thank my wife for putting up with
my many hours of studying.
The path you take to get your certification is much more important then the
# after your name, there are many important use full and some very useless
knowledge to gain.
I am have to thank the following people Victor my first lab partner, Louis,
Chi, Sam and lastly Vickas for helping through what was for me harder then
college.
I made it in 5 attempts which are above the average of 3.8 attempts most
people take I think. I have a learning disability which made it extra hard
to do the tests but I passed the same exam every one else has passed. Many
people pass whom speak english as a second language which i feel can be a
problem to them and I feel they deserve extra credit as well. But the Cisco
language of the exam is another language apart from any English its so
tricky its must be a dialect of the Mircosoft MCSE English .
What I have to say about people who wish to pass:
Have lots of rack time buy equipment for at least the base on your rack
(its cheaper now then when I started)
6 routers a 1 frame relay hub and a 2924 or 3550 switch
1 or 2 back bone routers
and a console server cisco or cyclades.
also becarefull only the 2600 or 3600 series and up routers support some QOS
and IP v6 after Jan 05
-----------buying rack time for 3550s and atm and voice is good saves you
money------------------------- Read many books: the router and switch field
manuals (new books from cisco ) the secutity field guide, the cisco
multicast book, parkhursts BGP and OSPF and the eigrp command references and
soleys practial studies. Read and find it on the document CDROM too.
Do not rely on IP expert labs as anything but practice they are good I like
the Boson CCIE series better then ip expert which has greatly improved from
its single topology lab that change very little.
The greatest advantage you have is this: the Document CDROM the sole source
of every question on the exam has to come from some where in maze of
documents not directly all the times :) (I think dont know this to be true
but a good 90% of it)
But another golden rule is to make friends whom are CCIEs or CCIE candidates
or just strong Cisco Gurus, contacts will help you in understand what you
are doing wrong even if you are doing it correctly. Most of these people may
become friends after the CCIE is reached too. I could not have passed with
the help of my friends. The beatles song I get by with a little help from
my friends
Understand you need help in some topics is important, others will come
easy from your job or reading and doing. But dont let the basic practice
labs or questions stop you from digging deep into topic like ISIS or DLSW.
Know all the core stuff first OSPF, EIGRP , RIP ISDN , Frame relay ATM and
ISIS. Then move on to the QOS, 3550s, IOS secrets, DLSW, security and
Multicast. Its easier to start from layer 2 to layer 3 then to the advance
topics. Crawl before you walk.!!! Dont take a Boot camp lab out and start
typing commands in without knowing frame relay, CIDR and basic IGP and BGP.
Take notes, organize your notes print it out and binder it.
Having a CCNP/CCDP doesnt equal CCIE candidate.
Taking the lab
Plan a head two months before the lab schedule at least 2 to 4 hours a day
to study and practice full labs only a few days a week. Over 4 times a week
will burn you out quick.!!
Relax the days before the exam reading your well kept notes.
Test your lab at home and in the lab
Then be able to test with the TCLSH commands !!! and reread the exam,
remember to skip questions that are low points when you need the time to
check your exam.
Points = time
Don't quit !!! Most people fail on the first attempt!!!
Take it again after you fail dont give in!!
I dont agree with boot camps that know what exam you will get and force you
to learn the Cisco way to pass and take your $$$ the path to the ccie is
more important then the # you get.
The # verifies what you know but learning doesnt stop there!!
I respect the many people whom passed and the many who yet to pass the CCIE.
But I respect every one who tries and the people who help.
Best of luck to everyone and thanks to all the people on group study
Thanks Boson, thanks Waffle house in RTP, many thanks to my friends out
there..
Steve R @ RTP
#13784
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