From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Tue Aug 03 2004 - 13:21:11 GMT-3
The motivation is a way to relieve boredom, but also (for consulting
opportunities) to find a quick and easy way to demonstrate some proficiency
with certain things like MPLS. I'm not sure what others find, but there's
only so much one is "allowed" to talk about things they have done which may
be for one client's competition. So short of a consultant making things up
that sound real good which have never been done and can't be legally
verified, the exam is a good place to start.
Just my opinion and little ramblings, of course...
But you are correct, SP's don't exactly purchase through resellers. Maybe
that's why there are so few out there. Although, by similar counts, the
Juniper certification program at the high levels is looking slim likely for
the same reasoning. As more consulting companies start withing with SP's
though, I think that will start to change more to become a measuring stick.
It's the whole outsourcing thing and how far it goes I suppose...
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:55 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Service Provider: Which Track?
At 8:53 AM -0500 8/3/04, Peasah, Richard Kwame wrote:
>Gang,
>
>Which of the SP track (Optical, DSL, Dial, Cable, WAN Switching, or IP
>Telephony) will you recommend? Let the debate begin :-)
>
Unfortunately, the SP certification suffers from the problem of people that
have an elephant in their dining room but are too polite to mention it:
none of the SP certifications go into real-world depth and understanding of
BGP, and quite likely MPLS.
Of the tracks, all but IP telephony (and maybe WAN switching, but that's a
declining area of interest with MPLS and GMPLS) are methods of providing
broadband end user access. Cisco is far less dominant in this area than it
is in ISP routing (yes, even with the growth of Juniper in that segment).
The usual incentive for a company to have R&S certified CCIEs is that it's a
reseller and it gets better discounts from Cisco. SPs rarely buy through
resellers (e.g., the Cisco Powered Network program).
So as a serious question, what advantage to people see to getting a SP
certification? It doesn't address the topics of most interest to ISPs,
although it is much stronger with broadband access providers or dial access
providers. What is the motivation?
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