From: Kenneth Wygand (KWygand@customonline.com)
Date: Mon Jul 19 2004 - 14:35:01 GMT-3
John,
Nonetheless, you've brought up a great topic of discussion and have made
our brains work a bit harder in thinking about these scenarios as well
as tweaks of these scenarios. Your input and contributions to this
group are always appreciated!
Thanks!
Kenneth E. Wygand
Systems Engineer, Project Services
CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, ACSP, Cisco IPT Design Specialist, MCP, CNA,
Network+, A+
Custom Computer Specialists, Inc.
"The only unattainable goal is the one not attempted."
-Anonymous
-----Original Message-----
From: john matijevic [mailto:matijevi@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 1:14 PM
To: 'Shibu Nair'; 'Richard Dumoulin'
Cc: Kenneth Wygand; 'James'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Redistribution question
Hello Richard and Shibu,
Yes you are both correct in your statements, I guess I originally
thought of RIP behaving like IS-IS. I am glad Kenneth corrected me, I
was able to lab out and indeed I was wrong with the rip redistribution
statement I made earlier.
Sincerely,
John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA
Network Consultant
Hablo Espanol
305-321-6232
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Shibu Nair
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:44 PM
To: Richard Dumoulin
Cc: john matijevic; 'Kenneth Wygand'; 'James'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Redistribution question
You are right.
Indirect redistribution is not allowed on the same router.
for instance if you are redistributing loopback 1 on R1 in to RIP.
Now loopback 1 ip address is part of RIP.
Assuming that you are redistributing RIP in to OSPF on the same
router. You would think that the loopback ip address which is now
part of RIP will redistribute to OSPF. But it will NOT happen since
you are doing both redistribution on the same router and this kind
of indirect redistribution on the same router will not be allowed.
Shibu
At 05:31 PM 7/19/2004 +0100, Richard Dumoulin wrote:
>If I remember well when you do a redistribute connected on RIP with a
>route-map, and redistribute rip into ospf, then the directly connected
>networks won't go from RIP to OSPF. Need testing though because I
vaguely
>remember,
>
>--Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: john matijevic [mailto:matijevi@bellsouth.net]
>Sent: lunes, 19 de julio de 2004 18:17
>To: 'Kenneth Wygand'; 'James'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Redistribution question
>
>
>Hello Kenneth,
>Yes you are correct as far as redistributing the rip route, I just
tested
>this myself. I was thinking of another issue with RIP.
>
>Sincerely,
>John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA
>Network Consultant
>Hablo Espanol
>305-321-6232
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Kenneth Wygand
>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:51 AM
>To: john matijevic; James; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Redistribution question
>
>John,
>
>Great post. However, you mentioned:
>
><SNIP>
>Basically, with RIP, and ISIS when you redistribute the protocols into
>another protocol you will have to do a redistribute connected even
through
>you maybe advertising the networks in the routing protocol. </SNIP>
>
>I agree that this is the case with ISIS because the connected
interfaces are
>not in the ISIS database, rather the CLNS database (they don't enter
the
>ISIS database until advertised to the ISIS process of a neighbor).
>
>However, with RIP, this is not the case. If you have a loopback
1.1.1.1 on
>R1, you enter this router into RIP with "network 1.0.0.0" and then
>redistribute into OSPF which is running between R1 and R2, this _will_
in
>fact show up in R2 as an E2 OSPF route.
>
>Did you mean something else?
>
>Kenneth E. Wygand
>Systems Engineer, Project Services
>CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, ACSP, Cisco IPT Design Specialist, MCP, CNA,
>Network+, A+
>Custom Computer Specialists, Inc.
>"The only unattainable goal is the one not attempted." -Anonymous
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
john
>matijevic
>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:02 AM
>To: 'James'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Redistribution question
>
>Hi James,
>There are a few more tools that you can use to tell what routes are
being
>advertised by what protocol. When you do a sh ip route, you see that
there
>are external routes which are coming in, even though you don't have
>redistribute connected under the routing protocol process. Basically,
if you
>put a network under the routing process in ospf or eigrp, that network
is
>going to be advertised to the neighbors, even though it is a "connected
>route". If you look at the ospf databse by using a sh ip ospf database
>command you should see that these routes are indeed in the database and
>being advertised via lsa. With eigrp you can use the command sh ip
eigrp
>topology, to look at the eigrp database. When you redistribute, from
one
>protocol to another; lets say for example from ospf to eigrp; if you do
a sh
>ip route, all the routes marked O from output, and any connected route
which
>you included in the routing process, which are ospf routes on the
router
>your doing the redistribution should be redistributed into eigrp, and
you
>should be able to go to remote router and see the routes as external if
you
>do a sh ip route on the remote router. The part that may confuse you
with
>connected is when you are using a routing protocol like rip and isis
for
>redistribution. These protocols don't behave like the others do. And
this is
>where I see much confusion from many posts here on groupstudy time and
time
>again, this issue has been documented in previous posts. Basically,
with
>RIP, and ISIS when you redistribute the protocols into another protocol
you
>will have to do a redistribute connected even through you maybe
advertising
>the networks in the routing protocol. I hope this helps clear up some
>confusion, you can also can lab this out to see the results for
yourself.
>
>Sincerely,
>John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA
>Network Consultant
>Hablo Espanol
>305-321-6232
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>James
>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:28 AM
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Redistribution question
>
>Hi group,
>
>Got a question about redist'ing between protocols.
>It is my understanding that when redistributing between two protocols
>directly, it does not perform the exchange through the specific
protocol
>databases, but rather performed by going through the RIB, which you can
see
>by issuing
>'sh ip route' command.
>
>So.. let's take an example
>R1--R2--<OSPF>-----------R5--------------<EIGRP>--R7--R8
> s0/1 fa0/0
> 192.168.10.1/24 192.168.100.1/24
> <-- OSPF Sector EIGRP Sector -->
>
>R5 is redistributing between OSPF network (192.168.10.0/24) and EIGRP
>network (192.168.100.1/24).
>
>However, when doing 'sh ip route', the 192.168.10.0/24 and
192.168.100.0/24
>are really NOT ospf, NOR eigrp networks, even though R8 sees
>192.168.100.0/24 as EIGRP route, and R1 sees 192.168.10.0/24 as ospf
route.
>However, to R5, these networks are neither ospf, nor eigrp, but they
are
>Connected routes.
>
>So redist connected is probably the needed solution on R5 to ensure
that
>
>connected networks are carried out as well.. However, I did this on R5
and
>192.168.100.0/24 is appearing as OSPF E2 external route on R1/R2, as
well as
>192.168.10.0/24 appearing as EIGRP EX route on R7/R8 even though I do
not
>have 'redistribute connected' on R5. R5 just has redistribute ospf
under
>eigrp process, and redistribute eigrp under ospf process.
>
>Am I missing something?
>
>Thanks for clues!
>-J
>
>--
>James Jun TowardEX
>Technologies, Inc.
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>Outsourcing
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