From: Wayne Lawson (groupstudy@ipexpert.net)
Date: Mon Jul 19 2004 - 10:28:50 GMT-3
Kimberly -
Great job man! You deserve this! Congratulations!!!
Wayne A. Lawson II
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MMoniz writes:
> Congratulations Kimberly!! Of note!! Most guitar players are men too!!! But
> that doesn't mean
> there aren't some awesome women guitar players!! Just as there are some
> pretty damn good CCIE's
> who also happen to be women!!
>
> Congrats!!
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> kmbrwhit
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:27 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com; Kimberly Whittaker
> Subject: #13606
>
>
> All,
>
> I just spent the past week in New Orleans celebrating! Weeeeeeeeeeedoggie,
> that was Mr. Toad's wild ride. (Yes, both getting my number and NOLA.)
>
> I passed in RTP last Friday and I have signed the wall of pain!!!!!!!!!!!!
> CCIE was one of the most challenging things I have done in my professional
> career, but the learning and personal grown was unbelievable. My
> undergraduate degree is in electrical engineering and I think I could have
> my PhD by now!!!! There is a reason they call this thing the PhD of
> networking.
>
> Perhaps there are those that can read a few RFCs and go pass this thing, but
> I found that I needed a combination of audio, reading, rack time, audio, and
> more reading, and then more rack time..............;-) That is where the
> practice labs really help, once you understand the technologies. One of the
> things that I found most frustrating was all the MIS-INFORMATION flying
> around out there, in Cisco press books, even in the doc CD and in the GS
> email threads. If you can test it yourself, that is the best way.
> Sometimes it is difficult to test it yourself, but this is really the best
> way to be certain. If can't test it and you are reading GS on the topic, do
> a sort on the Brians for the most to the point, on the mark answers.
>
> I was just reading the "all September seats are gone" thread and although I
> have written this email in my head several times over the past week, one of
> the most important things I can say (other than thanks) is to echo what
> Howard said in this post. You really need to understand your own personal
> learning style, because everyone is different and this will be a key to your
> success.
>
> Huge thanks to Wayne and Scott of IPExpert for all of their support. Labs
> 36-40 are killer. If you are an audio learner (like I am), you should check
> out the audio CDs that Scott has created. They are EXCELLENT. I put them
> on my mini IPOD and listened to them several times. This will help you lay
> a strong foundation and keep the basics fresh in your mind. As so many have
> said before, there are no shortcuts. Don't even waste your time looking.
> You should understand how every routing protocol works inside and out and
> then start mixing them up with redistribution. Then add the fun stuff, QoS,
> DLSW, M-cast, etc....
>
> And finally to the Brians. I did a couple of their mock labs before I ever
> looked at the IEWB and I realized I still had further to go. A good way to
> test your skills is via the InternetworkExpert mock lab and if you don't
> have the IEWB, do yourself a huge favor and get it.
>
> Going all the way back to November of 2002, Bruce and Val and Fred you guys
> are awesome! Thanks for your patience! Netmaster is a top notch course.
>
> Throughout my path, I would occasionally read GS, mostly I tried to figure
> things out and test them myself, which was very time consuming, but my
> favorite and most inspiring emails to read were those that posted regarding
> getting their number. So, if you have read this far, believe me when I say,
> it is worth the pain. Don't give up. I know that 95% of all the CCIE are
> men, but to any of you ladies out there, you can do it too!!!!!!
>
> Now, back to playing guitar and my life and my family and my jet ski and
> HOLIDAYS! (I've spent the last several major holidays studying!)
>
> Kimberly
> #13606
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@gettcomm.com>
> To: <security@groupstudy.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:58 PM
> Subject: RE: all September seats are gone
>
>
>> At 12:26 AM +0400 7/15/04, Slava Lushchinskiy wrote:
>> >....."As you know this is not the proper way to pass the lab"
>> >
>> >Could you share a secret what is a proper way of passing a lab? You may
> have
>> >10 yeas of experience and don't pass even written exam without reading
> some
>> >Cisco books.
>>
>> I read Scott's response as referring to studying simply by doing
>> practice labs. Practice labs that focus on simulating the CCIE lab
>> (8-hour) experience are not going to increase knowledge of the subtle
>> details of a protocol. Indeed, both Cisco books, and references such
>> as RFCs and non-Cisco technology tutorials will be needed there.
>>
>> Is it reasonable to have practice labs that explore technologies?
>> Sure, especially if one is a "tactile learner". In general, however,
>> workbooks aren't set up with 20 or so variants on a technology and
>> explanations of how they differ.
>>
>> Tactile learners absorb the most information from hands-on typing and
>> experimenting. The other recognized classes of learner (and no one is
>> purely one type) are visual (reading or perhaps slide presentation)
>> and aural (lecture). For example, I'm primarily a visual learner,
>> next tactile, and next aural.
>>
>> Tactile/visual/aural is only one set of variables about how people
>> learn. Some people learn best by doing lots of practice paper tests.
>> I learn better by doing designs for networks using the technology,
>> and, while not a technique useful to everyone, thinking about how I
>> would implement the technology in software and hardware inside a
>> router.
>>
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Brian
>> >Dennis
>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:14 PM
>> >To: swm@emanon.com; security@groupstudy.com
>> >Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> >Subject: RE: all September seats are gone
>> >
>> >
>> > Many of them
>> >tried to pass the lab by just doing CCIE level practice labs over and
>> >over. As you know this is not the proper way to pass the lab. So it's
>> >not that they aren't as smart as the person that passed on the first
>> >try, it's just that they didn't learning the correct way.
>> >
>> >Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
>> >bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>> >Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>> >http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>> >Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>> >Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>> >
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