From: Brian McGahan (bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Wed Jul 14 2004 - 19:22:45 GMT-3
Slava,
What Brian is trying to say is that CCIE practice lab scenarios
are typically not designed to teach you the fundamental principles of
networking, but instead are designed to test your already developed
foundations. The problem is that many people pursuing the CCIE do not
develop these foundations in the first place, which result in critical
holes in their knowledge base.
At a fundamental level, the CCIE lab exam is designed to test
your problem solving skills. While everyone knows that the CCIE lab
exam is not an exam of real-world or best-practice type situations, it
*is* an exam that is designed to test experience. Now when I say
"experience" I don't necessarily mean you need 20 years of work
experience in production networks, but that you understand the
fundamentals of how the protocols operate.
When Brian Dennis and I teach CCIE classes, one of the words
that we try to stay away from as much as possible is the word "gotcha".
A "gotcha" as used in the context of the CCIE lab typically describes a
specific interaction of protocols or a certain situation. For example,
a "gotcha" of running IS-IS over Frame Relay is that you can't have one
side of the link using a main interface and the other side using a
point-to-point interface without using the "isis network point-to-point"
command or using a GRE tunnel.
The problem with using this model is that people tend to start
lists of these potential "gotchas" in the lab, and learn based on these
exceptions. However, if you understood the fundamental operation of the
protocol you would realize that this isn't really a "gotcha" at all, but
instead just normal behavior of the technology.
The point is that if you truly understand how the protocol
operate then you would be able to infer from the exam questions what
they want you to do, and henceforth be in good position to pass the lab.
HTH,
Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Slava Lushchinskiy
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:26 PM
> To: 'Brian Dennis'; swm@emanon.com; security@groupstudy.com
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: all September seats are gone
>
> ....."As you know this is not the proper way to pass the lab"
>
> Could you share a secret what is a proper way of passing a lab? You
may
> have
> 10 yeas of experience and don't pass even written exam without reading
> some
> Cisco books.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Brian
> Dennis
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:14 PM
> To: swm@emanon.com; security@groupstudy.com
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: all September seats are gone
>
>
> Many of them
> tried to pass the lab by just doing CCIE level practice labs over and
> over. As you know this is not the proper way to pass the lab. So
it's
> not that they aren't as smart as the person that passed on the first
> try, it's just that they didn't learning the correct way.
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
>
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