From: Howard C. Berkowitz (hcb@gettcomm.com)
Date: Wed Jul 07 2004 - 18:02:00 GMT-3
At 3:16 PM -0400 7/7/04, Kenneth Wygand wrote:
>?
>In my opinion, RIPv1 should still be tested in the lab. RIPv1 has
>lots of intricacies in understanding the logic taking place inside
>the router which, to me, is ultimately what the CCIE is testing.
>Not only that, but many, many companies out there are still running
>RIPv1, either due to support on legacy equipment or just because
>there is no business need to upgrade. I see engineers all the time
>that have no idea how RIPv1 works, and they have one heck of a time
>getting an application to communicate with it because they simply
>don't understand the internal logic.
Is there really that much difference if the lab scenario specifies
version 2, but without disabling auto-summary? I don't have a
problem with a CCIE knowing how to fix discontiguous networks, nor
work with V2 both in classless and classful modes. Of course, Cisco
really cares about my opinion...
>
>I'd much rather see IS-IS be dropped from the R&S and left for the
>Service Provider exam, while keeping RIPv1 in the R&S. I think it
>would force R&S CCIE's to have a much better understanding of the
>protocols that will help them in the real world within the scope of
>an enterprise, where I believe the focus is for the CCIE R&S.
If one goes that way, I'd rather see Service Provider deal with some
serious BGP and MPLS following Best Current Practices. It mystifies
me what market the SP CCIE really addresses, since there are minimal
or no SP-market resellers.
>
>Just my $0.02.
>
>Ken
>
>________________________________
>
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of Joseph D. Phillips
>Sent: Wed 7/7/2004 3:02 PM
>To: group study
>Subject: RE: RIPv1 on the Lab
>
>
>
>Quite welcome. I hated RIPv1 anyway.
>
>
>----- Original message -----
>From: jean.paul.baaklini@accenture.com
>To: josephdphillips@fastmail.us, ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:26:34 +0200
>Subject: RE: RIPv1 on the Lab
>
>Thanks Joseph!!!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Joseph D. Phillips
>Sent: 07 July 2004 17:05
>To: group study
>Subject: Re: RIPv1 on the Lab
>
>RIPv1 is OFF the lab. Don't bother with it. The proctor has told me in
>each of my three attempts that this is so.
>
>
>----- Original message -----
>From: "Peter van Oene" <pvo@usermail.com>
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:14:05 -0400
>Subject: Re: RIPv1 on the Lab
>
>At 05:00 AM 7/7/2004, jean.paul.baaklini@accenture.com wrote:
>>Hi Group,
>>
>>The CCIE lab exam blueprint shows that RIPv2 will be tested during the
>>lab. It doesn't say anything about RIPv1. Does it mean that RIPv1 won't
>>be tested?
>
>If you plan to be a CCIE, I hope you can manage a rip setup ;-) I'd be
>ready for it myself. You might actually see it in the real world as
>well.
>
>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Regards,
>>JP
>>
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