RE: Routing without routing protocol

From: Juan Rojas (juan_rojas_miranda@yahoo.com.mx)
Date: Tue Jun 22 2004 - 15:21:06 GMT-3


Hi David,

I Did not see any restriction about this, I only see that you can?t any
routing protocol on the CAT, and ODR is not a routing protocol, it uses CDP
to propagate IP prefixes.

Juan
-----Mensaje original-----
De: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]En nombre de
Cooper, David
Enviado el: Martes, 22 de Junio de 2004 01:01 p.m.
Para: Juan Rojas; ccie2be; Alexander Arsenyev (GU/ETL); Group Study
Asunto: RE: Routing without routing protocol

I didn't think you were suppose to use ODR and another routing protocol
on the same router?

-DC

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Juan Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:58 PM
To: ccie2be; Alexander Arsenyev (GU/ETL); 'Group Study'
Subject: RE: Routing without routing protocol

Hi Tim,

I thinhk that you can use ODR on R5, and redistribute it on OSPF, on
both R5 and the CAT only you need to have CDP enable.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/tk810/technologies_q_and_a_item091
86a0
080093f1a.shtml

Juan.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]En nombre de
ccie2be Enviado el: Martes, 22 de Junio de 2004 12:21 p.m.
Para: Alexander Arsenyev (GU/ETL); 'Group Study'
Asunto: Re: Routing without routing protocol

PBR, default network, static routes etc. were explicitly prohibited for
this task.

From the posts I've seen so far, it looks like NAT can be used and
possibly irdp, but I'm not sure irdp would work.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Arsenyev (GU/ETL)" <alexander.arsenyev@ericsson.com>
To: "'Group Study'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:06 PM
Subject: RE: Routing without routing protocol

> I believe PBR on Cat3550 also suits the requirement, never tried it
> myself
though.
> It is supported from IOS 12.1(13)EA1 , see
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c3550/12113ea1/ol366
401.
htm#89520
> Given that Cisco introduces new features into R&S lab 6 months after
general release (see
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/rs/lab_exam_blueprint.html )
You are very likely to see Cat3550 with IOS supporting PBR in actual
lab.
>
> HTH,
> Cheers
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of

> ccie2be
> Sent: 22 June 2004 17:45
> To: Larry; 'MMoniz'; 'Group Study'
> Subject: Re: Routing without routing protocol
>
>
> Yeah, ip routing on the Cat was a required condition of the task.
> Based
on
> the other posts, I feel safe in saying that what they were looking for

> was Nat, but I'm still open to the posibility that irdp could meet the

> requirements, although I'm not yet 100% convinced.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry" <groupstudy@american-hero.com>
> To: "'ccie2be'" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "'MMoniz'"
<ccie2002@tampabay.rr.com>;
> "'Group Study'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:39 PM
> Subject: RE: Routing without routing protocol
>
>
> > From my experience you will need to disable ip routing on the 3550,
> > and
> just
> > enable irdp under the ethernet interface.
> >
> > The question is are you allowed to disable routing on the 3550? I
> > know
you
> > said it was enabled, but does it have to stay enabled?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf

> > Of ccie2be
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:00 AM
> > To: MMoniz; Group Study
> > Subject: Re: Routing without routing protocol
> >
> > OK, Mike. Maybe you're on to something, but...
> >
> > there's only basically one command, ip irdp.
> >
> > Using that one command, how do I make R5 generate irdp messages as
opposed
> > to just listening for those messages. And, likewise with the 3550,
> > how
do
> I
> > make the 3550 listen for irdp instead of sending them?
> >
> > Thanks, Tim
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "MMoniz" <ccie2002@tampabay.rr.com>
> > To: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "Group Study"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:32 AM
> > Subject: RE: Routing without routing protocol
> >
> >
> > > Actually you would need to enable IRDP on R5 so it will produce
> > > IRDP messages. The Cat will listen to these as it will be the
> > > client.
> > >
> > > IRDP has the capability to "intercept" rip and igrp messages but
> > > this
is
> > not
> > > a requirement.
> > >
> > > IRDP actually uses ICMP for messaging as the name implies. Here is

> > > a
> link
> > > for it.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/
fipr
> > > _c/ipcprt1/1cfipadr.htm#1001945
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ccie2be [mailto:ccie2be@nyc.rr.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:17 AM
> > > To: MMoniz; Group Study
> > > Subject: Re: Routing without routing protocol
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey Mike,
> > >
> > > Option isn't allowed - the instructions explicitly told me to
> > > enable
ip
> > > routing on the 3550.
> > >
> > > Re: irdp. I thought of that this morning but I thought if irdp
> > > were
> used,
> > it
> > > would have to be on the 3550. However, since there's no routing
> protocol
> > > running on the link between the 3550 and R5, there wouldn't be any
> routing
> > > updates to listen for.
> > >
> > > Also, if I remember correctly, irdp only listens for rip or igrp
updates
> > and
> > > only ospf is running on R5.
> > >
> > > I think there's still something else I'm missing.
> > >
> > > Thanks, I'm sure I'll find out, Tim
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "MMoniz" <ccie2002@tampabay.rr.com>
> > > To: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "Group Study"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:28 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Routing without routing protocol
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well I would say you have basically 2 options here.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Use IRDP on R5
> > > >
> > > > 2. Disable IP routing on the Cat and configure a
default-gateway.
This
> > is
> > > > not a static route or a static network!!
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On
> > > > Behalf
Of
> > > > ccie2be
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:10 AM
> > > > To: Group Study
> > > > Subject: Routing without routing protocol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > This one got me.
> > > >
> > > > 3550 has routing enabled but no routing protocols enabled.
> > > >
> > > > It's only path to the rest of the network is via R5. All other
> routers
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > other side of R5 must be able to ping the 3550's loopback.
> > > >
> > > > I'm allowed to use one static route on R5.
> > > >
> > > > This is what it looks like:
> > > >
> > > > 3550 lo0 fa0/5 ------- e0/1 R5 ----- rest of network
> > > >
> > > > How do I provide reachabiltiy to the 3550's lo0 without
> > > > violating
lab
> > > rules
> > > > ie
> > > > no default routes or default networks and no static routes
> > > > except the one explicitly allowed here?
> > > >
> > > > Please tell me what I'm missing. Thanks, Tim
> > > >
> > > >
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