RE: Routing without routing protocol

From: Kenneth Wygand (KWygand@customonline.com)
Date: Tue Jun 22 2004 - 15:17:11 GMT-3


Diptish,

No, ODR won't meet the requirements as Tim stated them:

<snip>
How do I provide reachabiltiy to the 3550's lo0 without violating lab
rules ie no default routes or default networks and no static routes
except the one explicitly allowed here?
</snip>

ODR will install a default route in the CAT3550, which is specifically
prohibited.

And as a side note - David - Yes you can run ODR and other routing
protocols on a single router. In fact, this is common practice with
redistribution from ODR into the dynamic routing protocol when the SPOKE
is not allowed to have any dynamic routing protocols configured (just
like this case, but in our case the default route provided makes this
solution unacceptable as per the confinements set forth by the
requirements).

Hope this helps!

Kenneth E. Wygand
Systems Engineer, Project Services
CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, ACSP, Cisco IPT Design Specialist, MCP, CNA,
Network+, A+
Custom Computer Specialists, Inc.
"The only unattainable goal is the one not attempted."
-Anonymous

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
diptish doshi
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:00 PM
To: Alexander Arsenyev (GU/ETL); 'ccie2be'; 'Group Study'
Subject: RE: Routing without routing protocol

hi ,
  Won't configuring ODR on R5 work ?
   or im missing something.
regards,
 diptish

--- "Alexander Arsenyev (GU/ETL)"
<alexander.arsenyev@ericsson.com> wrote:
> PBR is prohibited on R5 only or on both R5 and
> Cat3550?
> Cheers
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ccie2be [mailto:ccie2be@nyc.rr.com]
> Sent: 22 June 2004 18:21
> To: Alexander Arsenyev (GU/ETL); 'Group Study'
> Subject: Re: Routing without routing protocol
>
>
> PBR, default network, static routes etc. were
> explicitly prohibited for this
> task.
>
> From the posts I've seen so far, it looks like NAT
> can be used and possibly
> irdp, but I'm not sure irdp would work.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Arsenyev (GU/ETL)"
> <alexander.arsenyev@ericsson.com>
> To: "'Group Study'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:06 PM
> Subject: RE: Routing without routing protocol
>
>
> > I believe PBR on Cat3550 also suits the
> requirement, never tried it myself
> though.
> > It is supported from IOS 12.1(13)EA1 , see
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c3550/12113ea1/ol366
401.htm#89520
> > Given that Cisco introduces new features into R&S
> lab 6 months after
> general release (see
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/rs/lab_exam_blueprint.html
> ) You
> are very likely to see Cat3550 with IOS supporting
> PBR in actual lab.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Cheers
> > Alex
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > ccie2be
> > Sent: 22 June 2004 17:45
> > To: Larry; 'MMoniz'; 'Group Study'
> > Subject: Re: Routing without routing protocol
> >
> >
> > Yeah, ip routing on the Cat was a required
> condition of the task. Based
> on
> > the other posts, I feel safe in saying that what
> they were looking for was
> > Nat, but I'm still open to the posibility that
> irdp could meet the
> > requirements, although I'm not yet 100% convinced.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry" <groupstudy@american-hero.com>
> > To: "'ccie2be'" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "'MMoniz'"
> <ccie2002@tampabay.rr.com>;
> > "'Group Study'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:39 PM
> > Subject: RE: Routing without routing protocol
> >
> >
> > > From my experience you will need to disable ip
> routing on the 3550, and
> > just
> > > enable irdp under the ethernet interface.
> > >
> > > The question is are you allowed to disable
> routing on the 3550? I know
> you
> > > said it was enabled, but does it have to stay
> enabled?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > ccie2be
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:00 AM
> > > To: MMoniz; Group Study
> > > Subject: Re: Routing without routing protocol
> > >
> > > OK, Mike. Maybe you're on to something, but...
> > >
> > > there's only basically one command, ip irdp.
> > >
> > > Using that one command, how do I make R5
> generate irdp messages as
> opposed
> > > to just listening for those messages. And,
> likewise with the 3550, how
> do
> > I
> > > make the 3550 listen for irdp instead of sending
> them?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Tim
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "MMoniz" <ccie2002@tampabay.rr.com>
> > > To: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "Group
> Study"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:32 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Routing without routing protocol
> > >
> > >
> > > > Actually you would need to enable IRDP on R5
> so it will produce IRDP
> > > > messages. The Cat will listen to these
> > > > as it will be the client.
> > > >
> > > > IRDP has the capability to "intercept" rip and
> igrp messages but this
> is
> > > not
> > > > a requirement.
> > > >
> > > > IRDP actually uses ICMP for messaging as the
> name implies. Here is a
> > link
> > > > for it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/
fipr
> > > > _c/ipcprt1/1cfipadr.htm#1001945
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ccie2be [mailto:ccie2be@nyc.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:17 AM
> > > > To: MMoniz; Group Study
> > > > Subject: Re: Routing without routing protocol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey Mike,
> > > >
> > > > Option isn't allowed - the instructions
> explicitly told me to enable
> ip
> > > > routing on the 3550.
> > > >
> > > > Re: irdp. I thought of that this morning but I
> thought if irdp were
> > used,
> > > it
> > > > would have to be on the 3550. However, since
> there's no routing
> > protocol
> > > > running on the link between the 3550 and R5,
> there wouldn't be any
> > routing
> > > > updates to listen for.
> > > >
> > > > Also, if I remember correctly, irdp only
> listens for rip or igrp
> updates
> > > and
> > > > only ospf is running on R5.
> > > >
> > > > I think there's still something else I'm
> missing.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, I'm sure I'll find out, Tim
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "MMoniz" <ccie2002@tampabay.rr.com>
> > > > To: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "Group
> Study"
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:28 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: Routing without routing protocol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well I would say you have basically 2
> options here.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Use IRDP on R5
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Disable IP routing on the Cat and
> configure a default-gateway.
> This
> > > is
> > > > > not a static route or a static network!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
>
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