From: Joseph D. Phillips (jphillips@ufcwdrugtrust.org)
Date: Mon May 10 2004 - 17:10:53 GMT-3
I'm wondering just how nice the paychecks are.
Anyone here, on the strength of a CCIE alone, make more than $80,000 that doesn't live in a high-rent area?
-----Original Message-----
From: Pickard [mailto:richardlpickard@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 14:11
To: Chris; Jay Chandradas; Joseph D. Phillips; 'Group Study (E-mail)'
Subject: Re: Third attempt
I agree with you that the cert in & of it self is worthless, & I understand
where you are coming from when you say each attempt makes you better
HOWEVER
I passed on the first try & I would not say I am dumber that someone who
went 5 times
I can tell you that the cert opens a lot of doors ( & brings a nice
paycheck)
Richard
#12388
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <clarson52@comcast.net>
To: "Jay Chandradas" <jachandr@cisco.com>; "'Joseph D. Phillips'"
<jphillips@ufcwdrugtrust.org>; "'Group Study (E-mail)'"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Third attempt
> Oh yeah. Just to add and affirm what Jay posted. The cert alone is
> worthless. The real value is in the road to the certification. Something I
> am sure all the cheaters find out very quickly after passing and trying to
> get a good job with a good salary. Even now you have probably grown
> technically stronger then you ever have been. I know it doesn't help with
> motivation but there is considerable value in that. Not just technical
value
> either.......besides... you will get it next time.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Chandradas" <jachandr@cisco.com>
> To: "'Joseph D. Phillips'" <jphillips@ufcwdrugtrust.org>; "'Group Study
> (E-mail)'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Third attempt
>
>
> > Hi Joseph,
> >
> > Don't give up. You will get it next time. Give yourself some more and
> > try to find out where all the area that you need to concentrate more.
> >
> > You may not realize now that you have learnt a lot by studying for your
> > third attempt. Just because you failed, you are not able to appreciate
> > that. When you study for the forth attempt you will realize that you
> > have leanred a lot and things will become much more easier. You know a
> > lot..just need a little more and you r getting a chance to learn more by
> > preparing again for the forth attempt.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > -Jay
> >
> >
> > Jay Chandradas, CCIE #8060 ( R&S , Security )
> > jachandr@cisco.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Joseph D. Phillips
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 12:27 PM
> > To: Group Study (E-mail)
> > Subject: Third attempt
> >
> >
> > I failed my third attempt last 5/3/2004 in San Jose. The weird thing is,
> > I was pretty sure I aced it. I was half-expecting to fail anyway,
> > because one can never know for sure. I have given myself a week to sort
> > out my emotions. I have to say at this point that I am finding it very
> > hard to go on. I will, but I don't know why.
> >
> > I have absolutely no faith that I'll pass the next time, either. I can
> > ace all the Internetworkexpert labs (I did all of them, twice), attended
> > a week-long boot camp (IPExpert), got every interface to ping every
> > interface, and it still wasn't good enough.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Rinehart [mailto:jjrinehart@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 08:04
> > To: Stephen Skinner; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Woops ....Failed my first attempt
> >
> >
> > Don't feel bad, I will be attempting my fourth and hopefully final lab
> > on July 30....
> >
> > First time wasn't ready, don't think most are....
> >
> > Second time I really was disappointed still wasnt ready but almost
> > quit....
> >
> > Third time I finished by 2:30, overcame a lot of obstacles and nearly
> > passed, but no banana. Because I felt this was the first time I was
> > "really" ready it didn't bother me nearly as much.
> >
> > Just thought I would let you know you are not alone....
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Joe Rinehart, CCNP/CCDP
> > Data Network Consultant
> > AT&T Business Services, Pacific Northwest
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Skinner" <stephen_ski@hotmail.com>
> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 7:43 AM
> > Subject: Woops ....Failed my first attempt
> >
> >
> > > Hi ...
> > >
> > >
> > > well i got my backside handed to me on friday in brussells ....
> > >
> > > i failed simply because my basic wernt upto scratch ....
> > >
> > > i failed with ISDN ...OSPF ....DLSW and BGP ....i got all the " Hard"
> > > as
> > in
> > > unusuall question`s ..
> > > that are thrown in every now and then ....but all the stuff which i
> > > should know and is dependent on everything else i stuffed up ...
> > >
> > > i.e i cant get point on ospf if i can`t get my link`s to work ...that
> > > sort of thing....
> > >
> > > but i am going again ...7th june ....and am going to lab my behind off
> >
> > > uintil then...
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > steve
> > >
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