From: Kenneth Wygand (KWygand@customonline.com)
Date: Sun May 02 2004 - 10:09:43 GMT-3
Hey Brian and group,
Do you know if the "dialer map" is still required for the network being watched through Dialer Watch? According to Kian's tests, it is not required and Cisco doesn't list it as a configuration requirement. However, they do illustrate its use and purpose in their configuration example at the bottom of the same link:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fdia <http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fdia>
l_c/fnsprt6/dcdbakdw.htm#19111
Thanks in advance,
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Kian Wah Lai [mailto:kian_wah@qala.com.sg]
Sent: Sun 5/2/2004 2:39 AM
To: Kenneth Wygand; 'MMoniz'; 'ccie2be'; 'CCIE Canidate'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc:
Subject: RE: What is the best way to become ISDN smart
I tested it just now and here is what I've found
R1 connected to R2 via Ethernet and ISDN. R1 is having a loop back int which
I'll use it for dialer watch-list. The routers that I've used are the one
with the real ISDN line. I didn't manage to try the one on PEC, think there
are some problems with the simulator (can't even dial through)
R1:
interface BRI0/0
ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
encapsulation ppp
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer map ip 172.16.1.2 broadcast <num>
dialer load-threshold 255 either
dialer-group 1
isdn switch-type basic-net3
no peer neighbor-route
end
R2:
interface BRI0/0
ip address 172.16.1.2 255.255.255.0
encapsulation ppp
dialer watch-disable 10
dialer map ip 172.16.1.1 broadcast <num>
dialer watch-group 1
dialer-group 1
isdn switch-type basic-net3
no peer neighbor-route
end
r2(config)#int e0/0
r2(config-if)#shut
r2(config-if)#
01:38:54: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 1, Nbr 10.10.10.10 on Ethernet0/0 from
FULL to DOWN, Neighbor Down: Interface down or detached
01:38:54: %ISDN-6-LAYER2UP: Layer 2 for Interface BR0/0, TEI 110 changed to
up
01:38:55: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0/0:1, changed state to up
01:38:56: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Ethernet0/0, changed state to
administratively down
01:38:56: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI0/0:1, changed
state to up
01:38:57: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0/0,
changed state to down
01:39:00: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0/0:2, changed state to up
01:39:01: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI0/0:2, changed
state to up
01:39:01: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0/0:1 is now connected to <num>
01:39:06: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0/0:2 is now connected to unknown
Thus, there is no need for dialer map statement. I tried putting it in and
it still works the same way.
Regards,
Kian Wah Lai
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Wygand [mailto:KWygand@customonline.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 11:36 AM
To: Kian Wah Lai; MMoniz; ccie2be; CCIE Canidate; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: What is the best way to become ISDN smart
Kian,
A few things:
1) Yes, it is possible to bring up both channels through a single dial
number. This is done through PPP Multilink and can only be done with PPP
encapsulation (like you are using). You just need to add the command "PPP
Multilink". Then you need to tell it _when_ you want the second channel to
kick up. This can be load-based (ppp multilink load-threshold [1-255]), or
automatic (ppp multilink links minimum 2). The reason this appears to work
with the "real" circuit could be because the second link will come up
_without_ multilink in the following scenario. Picture R1 calls R2 through
the first dial number. If R2 doesn't realize it can reach R1 over this
link, it may use the second dial number to call R1 back. You will see this
if you "show isdn history". Check the direction (inbound or outbound) for
each circuit connection (which router initiated the call).
2) The way you have this connection set up, R1 can never dial R2 for two
reasons. The first reason is because there is no dial string associated
with the dialer map. This is correct if you do not want R1 to ever dial R2.
However, you also do not have any interesting traffic defined. Interesting
traffic is used to reset the "idle-timeout" which, when expires, tears down
the connection. There is an "idle-timeout" on each side of the circuit - in
your case, there is an idle-timeout on both R1 and R2. When _either_ of
these values on either side reaches 0, the circuit is torn down, period. R1
does not care what R2's idle-timeout value is - if R1's idle-timeout reaches
0, it will tear the circuit down. Since you have not explicitly defined the
idle-timeout value, the default is 120 seconds. Anytime interesting traffic
is seen crossing the link, this value is reset to the configured value (the
default of 120 seconds in this case). However, you do not have any
interesting traffic defined through the configuration of a "dialer-group x"
interface command and associated "dialer-list x" global command. You can
either A) define interesting traffic across this link, B) set the
idle-timeout value to a very high value like 9999 (I don't like this), or C)
disable the idle-timeout value on router A through the command "no dialer
idle-timeout". My preference is choice C if you want Router B to make all
the dialing and teardown decisions.
3) You are using dialer watch. For whichever route you are watching, you
must have an associated "dialer-map" mapping to that network. Even though
this is not listed as a required task in the Dialer Watch configuration task
list on the documentation CD, you will see it referenced in the notes within
the configuration examples:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fdia
l_c/fnsprt6/dcdbakdw.htm#19111
HTH,
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Kian Wah Lai [mailto:kian_wah@qala.com.sg]
Sent: Sat 5/1/2004 10:48 PM
To: Kenneth Wygand; 'MMoniz'; 'ccie2be'; 'CCIE Canidate';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc:
Subject: RE: What is the best way to become ISDN smart
R1 - ISDN - R2, only r2 can call r1
This config works with a real ISDN line, but can't work on the ISDN
simulator on PEC. Another thing with PEC ISDN is that I only get to
bring up
the 1st channel. For basic-net3 (both labs are using this), no SPID
are
required and my friend told me one number will bring up both
channel.
R1:
interface BRI0/0
ip address 172.16.12.1 255.255.255.0
encapsulation ppp
dialer map ip 172.16.12.2 name r2 broadcast
isdn switch-type basic-net3
no peer neighbor-route
ppp authentication chap
end
R2:
interface BRI0/0
ip address 172.16.12.2 255.255.255.0
encapsulation ppp
dialer map ip 172.16.12.1 name r1 broadcast <num>
dialer watch-group 1
dialer-group 1
isdn switch-type basic-net3
no peer neighbor-route
ppp authentication chap
end
Regards,
Kian Wah Lai
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
Kenneth Wygand
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:32 AM
To: Kian Wah Lai; MMoniz; ccie2be; CCIE Canidate;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: What is the best way to become ISDN smart
Kian,
Can you post your configurations and describe the problem you are
having?
Maybe we can help you! :)
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of Kian Wah Lai
Sent: Sat 5/1/2004 9:11 PM
To: 'MMoniz'; 'ccie2be'; 'CCIE Canidate';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc:
Subject: RE: What is the best way to become ISDN smart
One thing I'm curious about, I keep having problem with ISDN
simulator :(
However, when I copy the same config to a router with real
ISDN
line, it
works perfectly fine.
Regards,
Kian Wah Lai
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
On Behalf
Of
MMoniz
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 3:53 AM
To: ccie2be; CCIE Canidate; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: What is the best way to become ISDN smart
Well another alternative is to become a gold member or other
level
with
IPExpert and you will have access to NUMEROUS escenarios
that will
not only
give you explanations but also the configs if you so choose
to look
at. All
of them are
CCIE level but they also have CCNA and NP level.
This is inlcuded if you take like the VCLass or any other
class I
believe
and it makes picking labs to do very simple.
For instance if I only want to go over ISDN they have a few
labs
that are
just ISDN but also many other complex routing labs that
include
ISDN.
Not that I am suggesting that any of the other products out
there
are not
quality, but to me being able to access via
a "virtual" means is important to me. I want to be able to
access
labs no
matter my physical location.
But it still all boils down to the same thing!!!learn,
practice
practice
practice
just my opinion,
mike
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On
Behalf
Of
ccie2be
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 3:21 PM
To: CCIE Canidate; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: What is the best way to become ISDN smart
My suggestion would be to get your hands on a large set of
practice
labs and
practice the isdn portion of each one. After doing 20 to 40
of
these
practice labs, you'll feel fairly confident of your ability
to
handle ccie
level isdn config's. Of course, if there are other topics
you want
or need
to practice, you'll find them covered in the practice labs
as well.
Lots of companies these days offer practice lab workbooks,
but for
my money,
I think those from Internetwork Expert are the best. They
include
with
their practice labs comprehensive explanations of their
solution at
no
additional cost whereas IPExpert offers no explanation at
all or
just a
superficial one at best.
Each company I think also provides a sample lab you can
download for
free so
you can decide based on your assessment of their sample lab.
good luck
----- Original Message -----
From: "CCIE Canidate" <cisco@heartofdarknessstudios.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:05 PM
Subject: What is the best way to become ISDN smart
> Hi everyone!
>
> I know that there is a way more gray matter here than at
my house.
> Basically, I have all of the right gear and can understand
the
basics,
> AND have already read a ton of Cisco documents, Kaslow's
book, the
CISCO
> Press books, among others....and still am not sure how
best to
assemble
> the most efficient configs required for CCIE level work.
I want
to get
> the opinions of group members on what materials give me
the "BEST"
> crawl, walk, run steps, procedures, and examples of how to
setup
ISDN in
> preparation for the lab.
>
> Thanks,
>
> ISDN challenged guy
>
>
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