RE: boot camp again :)

From: Brian McGahan (bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Tue Apr 20 2004 - 15:30:16 GMT-3


Ed,

> ...Then again, you can always ante up the $1250 to Cisco and take the
> exam,
> you'll find out in no uncertain terms *exactly* what you need to
> concentrate
> on...

        This is not necessarily true. It is more common that I see
students who don't understand why they failed as opposed to students
that do understand why they failed. As I'm sure many of you can attest
to, the score report that Cisco provides after an unsuccessful attempt
is rarely indicative of how you thought you performed. This was the main
motivation for the new mock lab class format that Brian Dennis and I
developed.

        By subjecting students to the conditions of the lab (8 hours for
lab plus 30 minutes for lunch), grading the lab on a point scale of 100,
and discussing the lab, you can get an independent outside opinion of
what you're doing correct/incorrect.

> You have to put in some serious (like, SERIOUS) hands-on study time to
> pass

        Undoubtedly. The key to passing this certification is to
understand the fundamental principles of how the protocols operate and
interoperate with each other. There are no shortcuts in this process.
Learning tools such as classes and workbooks can assist you in this
process, but you will still only get out of them what you put into them.

        Good luck on your next attempt.

HTH,

Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Edward Kelly
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:48 AM
> To: 'Volodymyr Levytskyy'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: boot camp again :)
>
> Hello...
> ...That's called class auditing and it's pretty common with most
> technology
> related classes, doesn't matter if it's Cisco, Microsoft, Joe Router,
> whichever...They know you really don't want to have to sit through a
class
> again...Take the class for what it's worth, whoever you go with, and
focus
> on the weaknesses that it exposes...
>
> ...Then again, you can always ante up the $1250 to Cisco and take the
> exam,
> you'll find out in no uncertain terms *exactly* what you need to
> concentrate
> on...You have to put in some serious (like, SERIOUS) hands-on study
time
> to
> pass, boot camp or no...My 2nd attempt is next month and I am looking
> forward to it...
>
> ...I see allot of posts from allot of really sharp people on this
mailing
> list, and many of them have helped me understand things, or *notice*
> things
> that I hadn't caught before...I suggest you use every resource
available
> to
> you as much and as often as you can...
>
> That's my .02...
> Ed
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Volodymyr Levytskyy
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:30 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: boot camp again :)
>
> What do you guys think about:
>
> "If you do not pass the CCIE Lab after completing this course you will
> be able to attend the same course again absolutely FREE!"
>
> I don't think I will need to take another boot camp. I mean after I
> fail. I will need just more time to figure out where I make mistake.
>
> Any opinion about that :-)
>
>
>
> Thanks...
>
> Vlad
>
>



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