From: Volodymyr Levytskyy (vovan@shaw.ca)
Date: Sun Apr 18 2004 - 02:01:37 GMT-3
thanks guys....
i am filling like i need more practice before attend bootcamp, but anyway
can i get some review of different bootcamp?? there a lot of them, don't
wanna go wrong
ccbootcamp, ipexpert, internetworkexpert and netmasterclass are good... hard
to say which one is good for me,
i guess they all different in way how they are going... wanna choose the
right for me...
thanks again
vlad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
To: "'Administrator'" <Administrator@standardaerotech.ca>; "'Volodymyr
Levytskyy'" <vovan@shaw.ca>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: boot camp
> Is there a difference beteen helping to pass the lab exam and helping you
> see where you were and what level you were at?
>
> I wasn't aware that the two were mutually exclusive of ecah other. Yes,
the
> bootcamp should help point out where you are at and see what areas you
need
> work with. Yes, the bootcamp should help you develop a strategy. Yes, it
> should give you a venue to talk with others in the same boat you are in
and
> have your questions adequately answered by a (hopefully) knowledgeable
> instructor.
>
> Are those things all not steps along the way to helping you with your lab
> exam? I would think so. That's what is supposed to happen anyway.
>
> Nobody can guarantee that you will pass the lab. There are a number of
> factors outside of an instructor delivering multiple missives to the
masses,
> many of which are personal in nature. However, preparation can reach a
> level where things are familiar enough for someone to pass.
>
> Nobody can know everything, but you can be presented with a series of
> information that allows you a framework to attack any technology thrown at
> you. It's that whole "teaching you to fish" rather than presenting a
> platter of prepared fish for you. The "battle" is different for each
person
> though. I do agree with you though that bootcamps promising that you will
> pass the exam are crossing a difficult line between philosophy and
> marketing! (I'm really hoping that we don't PROMISE that! (grin))
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
> JNCIS, et al.
> IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
> IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
> http://www.ipexpert.net
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Administrator
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 8:48 AM
> To: 'Volodymyr Levytskyy'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: boot camp
>
> What a crock of crap that is. The bootcamp helped me see where I am and
> what level I was at. It gave me a chance to see where I stood in respect
> to myself, and the other people in the class. It gave me a venue to
discuss
> issues with other real live people. The bootcamp that I went to showed me
> my areas of weakness, and for 6 months since then I have been bustin my
a$$
> to get ready for my first title shot at the CCIE belt.
>
> To say that the bootcamps make you pass the lab exam only is BS. Its
> actually disrespectful to all the people here and the people that teach
the
> bootcamp. 5 days does not make you CCIE material, period. I took my
> bootcamp in Novemeber. I have been doing labs 8 to 10 hours a day every
day
> since then. The bootcamp showed me that I had a lot to learn, and then I
> went in that direction.
>
> As far as I know, there is no easy way to win this battle, to even say
that
> is crap.
>
> Christian
> CCIE # (fill in here hopefully soon)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volodymyr Levytskyy [mailto:vovan@shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:28 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: boot camp
>
>
> Hey people
>
> Any comments about different bootcamp. ccbootcamp, ipexpert,
netmasterclass,
> ...
> I heard a lot of people taking boot camp and next day going to take lab
> exam. Seems like boot camp help to pass lab exam only... But I can be
> wrong... :)))
>
> Thanks...
> Vlad
>
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