RE: FW: Live from RTP (I'm now CCIE 13161) !!!

From: Yasser Aly (blackyeyes00@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Apr 15 2004 - 05:54:00 GMT-3


Dear All,

  At the begining I would like to send my sencere congratulations to Pascal.
It's a well done job :)
I have just few comments and would like sharing them with you.

To me after monitoring many success stories of people passing CCIE it can be
easily seen that commercial bootcamps/workshops played a big part in helping
them passing the last mile.

  This doesn't mean that those folks didn't study hard, it just meant that
you can easily loose in the lab for things that you can't even notice. I
consider that's when bootcamps/workshops play its significant role.

  CCIE is a target that needs spending a lot of money to acheive. You can
spend weeks studying an item and at the end you don't really understand it,
whereas in a bootcamp things are much different specially after being
explained from a good experienced instructor.

  If these bootcamps did not exist I can assure you numbers of people
passing was going to reduce significantly.

Just my openion.
Yasser

>From: "Allan Wells" <wellse@bigpond.net.au>
>Reply-To: "Allan Wells" <wellse@bigpond.net.au>
>To: "'Pascal Ouellet'" <ouelletpascal@yahoo.ca>,
<barrerj1@hotmail.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: RE: FW: Live from RTP (I'm now CCIE 13161) !!!
>Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:26:45 +1000
>
>HI Pascal,
>
>Firstly Congratulations
>
>But spare us the life story.
>
>Pascal firstly You have attended two bootcamps
>
>1.netmasterclass Quote "and intense 5 day ccie lab prep"
>
>2. A distant learning from Internetworkexpert "intense as well I
imagine"
>that would certainly fast track most people trying to get the number +
add 5
>years work experience doing "everything".
>
>When you say it only took you 3 months I disagree its taken you 5 years
and
>3 months.
>
>You have achieved what you set out to do, be proud of that. Not the
three
>months proper gander, people don't want hear it.
>
>Allan
>
>Allan
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Pascal Ouellet
>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:30 PM
>To: barrerj1@hotmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Re: FW: Live from RTP (I'm now CCIE 13161) !!!
>
>Hi JB,
>
>I just wanted to let you know that I'm not the type of person that only
do
>networking stuff and that's my only life. I never work at home (except
when
>I want to get a certification). I'm not that type. I'm a musicien,
play
>guitar (I have 2 rock band). And during the last past month I continue
to
>work for my company (only got 3 weeks off for training and a couple of
more
>days). After I pass the written exam I decided to take each minutes I
can
>to study for the lab (it was not that much, because of my work, practice
>with my bands...) but I tried to deal with the rest of the available
time.
>But I understand guys that has a familly (kids...) it should be very
hard to
>get time to concentrate... I admire them.
>
>I think that before I started that hold process I was at a certain level
of
>knowledge (experiences...) I've worked for a small company for 5 years.
I
>had to do almost everything (convert X25 to Frame-relay...) I was 22
years
>old at that time. I learned a lot there.
>
>So again, you don't just need to know the command but you need to
understand
>it and do links (logic) between differents config. At the end
everything
>will all make sense. So if you see something you ever seen before you
will
>be able to go through because you will compare with something else you
know
>and understand.
>
>Regards,
>
>Pascal
>CCIE 13161 :-)
>
>barrerj1@hotmail.com wrote:
>Yeah! Whatever,
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Richard Dumoulin
>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:36 PM
>To: barrerj1@hotmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Live from RTP (I'm now CCIE 13161) !!!
>
>He is just more intelligent, I don't see anything strange --Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: barrerj1@hotmail.com [mailto:barrerj1@hotmail.com]
>Sent: miircoles, 14 de abril de 2004 19:43
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Live from RTP (I'm now CCIE 13161) !!!
>
>
>I don't mean any disrespect,
>
>However, I firmly believe that Pascal is single, lives at home and his
>car
>loan is payoff.
>
>
>That's the only way I can imagine 3 months should be enough.
>
>Maybe I'm incorrect!
>
>JB
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>John
>Matijevic
>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:34 AM
>To: 'Pascal Ouellet'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Live from RTP (I'm now CCIE 13161) !!!
>
>Congradulations Pascal,
>3 months study with just doing the doit labs is incredible. I have
>studied
>almost 2 years, I think that is incredible to learn all that information
>in
>a few months, is remarkable, Congradulations again, I envy you.
>Sincerely,
>Matijevic
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Pascal Ouellet
>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:20 AM
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Live from RTP (I'm now CCIE 13161) !!!
>
>Hi Everybody,
>
>I did it!!! Yesterday was my first and last attempt! :-) It's been 3
>intenses month. I started the hold process in January 2004. I started
>reading books (R&S Bruce Caslow, Doyle...) I pass the written exam
at
>the
>end of February. After that I started my preparation for the lab. I did
>the
>Netmasterclass (NMC-1) in March. It really give me a push. Those guys
>really care about you passing the test (thanks to Val, Bruce, Bob and
>Indy).
>Afterthat I did some lab at home (with the DoIT workbook). I also tried
>the
>new mock lab from Netmasterclass (CheckIT) it's a similation test, it's
>good!
>
>For my final preparation, I decided to do the InternetworkExpert Mock
>class
>at home (I did it 1 week ago). They really have good materials...
>Thanks to
>Brian McGahan and Brian Dennis (good job).
>
>The advise I can tell you is to read the complete exam (twice),
>afterthat
>carefully read each requirements. Look at all the possibilities and
>find
>the one that will fit with the rest of the exam (look the overall). A
>phrase that I won't forget from Bruce Caslow "Don`t fall in love
with
>the
>first option" Do a small drawing for each section to visualize the
>topology.
>
>Good luck everybody!
>
>Pascal Ouellet
>CCIE 13161
>
>
>
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