From: Tom Larus (tlarus@cox.net)
Date: Sat Apr 03 2004 - 12:38:47 GMT-3
Jay:
Yours is one of the best posts on this topic I have ever read.
Thanks,
Tom Larus
> From: Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net>
> Date: 2004/04/03 Sat AM 01:57:59 EST
> To: trouse@cisco.com
> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Bad Interview Experience
>
> On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 trouse@cisco.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for sharing this story. It touches on alot of issues that many
> > of us can probably relate to.
> >
> > I say all this to lead into my question: What is the equivalent
> > experience level of a ccie? Say someone with no experience get a CCIE
> > ( with hard work and commitment none the less ), what are they good for
> > in your opinion? Are they not a valubable engineer?
>
> Absolutely. And the hard work and commitment in a lab environment is
> a form of experience, even though not on-the-job. What such a person
> might lack is the respect for a customer's or an employer's production
> network.
>
> By this, I mean that reloading a lab router or making changes that break
> things that you know how to fix become routine in CCIE training and
> preparation. If you work for a stockbroker, or a bank, or the FAA in
> air traffic control (to cite a few mild examples), this type of habit
> can be quite counterproductive.
>
> With CCIE lab preparation, speed and the knowledge of not-the-best-way
> practices are of the essence, and the traffic flowing through the network
> is relatively light in terms of running a router out of memory or CPU if
> configured sub-optimally. And the traffic is of little or no importance
> or intrinsic value.
>
> A "lab rat" CCIE with little practical experience is certainly a valuable
> engineer, but a prudent employer is going to want to impart some other
> skills before turning over a production network to such a person. Such
> a CCIE will probably excel at diagnosis and troubleshooting before gaining
> the design and scalability planning skills needed for large, critical
> production networks, IMHO.
>
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