From: Church, Chuck (cchurch@wamnetgov.com)
Date: Tue Mar 02 2004 - 13:15:00 GMT-3
I really don't think there's any need for concern here. For the last several years, the CCIE has ranked near the top of all those 'Salary Survey' type magazines. Certainly this promise of 'big bucks' is more a motivation to prospective lab-sitters than the possibility of couple free books. I like how they mention "Commit yourself to achieving CCIE certification this year" with only 10 months remaining in the year. Passing the written and the lab in 10 months is not done by your average person. This sounds more like a promotion put on by the testing centers, to book a lot of written tests. I see a lot of people taking the written, going home with their tails between their legs, and looking at something easier. I took the security written to recert back in November. It was pretty tricky, compared to the R&S written of 3 years ago. I heard the R&S written is difficult these days as well. Don't expect any CCIE-flood to come out of this...
Chuck Church
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter van Oene [mailto:pvo@usermail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:56 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: FW: Your Next Step is CCIE [Cisco feeling the burn]
>
>
> At 01:19 AM 3/2/2004, ihatecisco@att.net wrote:
> >Looks like the certification value slide is starting to
> begin. Cisco trying
> >to get more people to start on the long road to CCIE.
> >
> >I will let anyone know if i find any coupons in this weekends paper.
>
> I really don't think books or coupons for books are holding that many
> candidates back. Most folks who really want the CCIE will
> buy what the
> need, and those that couldn't be bothered with vendor certs
> will continue
> to ignore it. This is just good marketing by the best
> marketer in the
> business.
>
> Its hard to buy foundry/juniper/extreme/netscreen(juniper)
> etc after you
> spend 3 years and lots of money learning how to make cisco boxes
> tick. Cisco knows this, that's why they force VARs to ram
> all their people
> through their dense cert system. It creates powerful
> advocates who make
> decisions based upon their comfort level, instead of pure box
> capabilities
> (which are very rationale decisions in many cases imho).
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ccie-promo@cisco.com [mailto:ccie-promo@cisco.com]
> >Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:54 PM
> >To: [ME]
> >Subject: Your Next Step is CCIE
> >
> >
> >Dear CCNP,
> >
> >With the economy poised for recovery, now is the time to
> strengthen your
> >personal qualifications. Obtaining your CCIE. certification
> can provide you
> >with the edge you need to move your career to the next level.
> >
> > a.. Studying for the exams expands your technical knowledge.
> > b.. Passing the lab gives you personal satisfaction.
> > c.. Displaying your official CCIE number earns you the respect and
> >admiration of colleagues and employers.
> >Obtaining your CCNP was an important step in your career.
> Taking the next
> >step-earning your CCIE-will differentiate you, and establish
> your mastery of
> >complex technology. Commit yourself to achieving CCIE
> certification this year.
> >Schedule your written exam now and enter a drawing for free
> CCIE self-study
> >materials from Cisco Press. Preparation is key to success on
> the lab exam, and
> >self-study with Cisco equipment is the most important
> factor. CCIE Practical
> >Studies, a two-volume set from Cisco Press (a $150 value),
> is designed to help
> >CCIE candidates prepare for the hands-on lab exam and
> supplies lab scenarios
> >for effective self-study.
> >
> >To qualify for the drawing, you must be a CCNP in good
> standing and register
> >and take a CCIE written exam (any track) before June 30,
> 2004. A passing score
> >is not necessary to qualify. One two-volume set will be
> awarded to a qualified
> >CCNP each month. Those not chosen will remain in the pool
> for drawings in
> >subsequent months. Books will be shipped to winners after
> verification that
> >exam is complete. Cisco employees are not eligible for this offer.
> >
> >Need more?
> >
> >* CCIE was the most lucrative professional credential in
> 2003, according to
> >Certification Magazine's annual survey of over 19,000 IT
> professionals.
> >
> >* CCIE was voted the #2 Hottest Exam for 2004 (#1 in 2003)
> by the readers of
> >CertCities.com
> >
> >* CCIE was named "Most Technically Advanced Certification"
> and "Best Hands-On
> >Program" by Certification Magazine.
> >
> >Visit the CCIE website now for more information on the CCIE
> tracks--Routing &
> >Switching, Security, Service Provider and Voice, and to
> schedule your exam.
> >Details for entering the drawing are also available on the
> website at Special
> >Offer for CCNPs.
> >
> >Mike Reid
> >CCIE Program Manager
> >Cisco Systems, Inc.
> >
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