From: Richard Dumoulin (richard.dumoulin@vanco.es)
Date: Fri Feb 27 2004 - 07:18:53 GMT-3
I find it sad that companies hire numbers instead of persons !!
-----Mensaje original-----
De: ccie4u@myrealbox.com [mailto:ccie4u@myrealbox.com]
Enviado el: viernes, 27 de febrero de 2004 11:09
Para: Marko Berend; ccielab@groupstudy.com; george_bethel@yahoo.com;
robert.mccallum@thus.net; nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk
Asunto: Re: CCIE # Association
hi,
I was working for non-cisco partner and cleared my CCIE lab exam, after
clearing my lab I started giving interview at various places including Cisco
Partners. One of the partner associated my CCIE number with their company
and i did not came to know about this association for about 1 month. when
the Next new company I was going to join verified if my CCIE number is
associated.
when i enquired with the old company had associated my number without my
permission, they
dis-assciated my number. But to my Bad luck it took bit long time and new
company had already employed
another CCIE.
I think Cisco should update their policy about CCIE number association and
Candiated must be informed when his number is associated and dis-assciated.
regards
Harman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marko Berend" <marko.berend@storm.hr>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE # Association
> Very funny. Have you ever taken a lab exam before?
>
> I wonder if you will give up after your 3rd time :)
>
> I bet many CCIE's would fail if they took the test again. Not to say
> that they don't know the material, but it's so easy to slip.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yasser Aly [mailto:blackyeyes00@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:19 AM
> To: george_bethel@yahoo.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE # Association
>
>
> Hi George,
>
> Though I don't work for a Cisco partner but I don't agree with you in
> this
> for the following reason:
> Maybe it is not the best place for a CCIE to work in a Cisco Partner,
> still
> the condition that Cisco created for those willing to be partners to
> have
> certain number of CCIEs contributed in maintaining the value of CCIE.
>
> Imagine now if Cisco decided that partners are not obliged to have
> CCIE's
> in their teams, it won't be the same anymore for CCIE world.
>
> I am also confused whether it is a good or bad thing for the CCIE
> program
> and commuunity not to set a max. number of trials to gain the
> certificate.
> I would vote for limiting the max number of trials to get the
> certificate
> for a max. of three trials.
>
> Regards,
> Yasser
>
>
>
>
> >From: George Bethel <george_bethel@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: George Bethel <george_bethel@yahoo.com>
> >To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >Subject: RE: CCIE # Association
> >Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:06:56 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >The CCIE certification is always retained by the individual who earned
> >it.
> >However, for the purposes of the Cisco partner programs a previous
> employer
> >may be able to retain the use of your certification for partner status
> >qualification purposes, only.
> >
> >Unfortunately, CCIE's are less desireable to some Cisco Partners if
> >their
> >certs are not portable for partner status reasons. This should not
> >discourage anyone from getting their CCIE. Cisco partners are some of
> the
> >worst places a CCIE could work anyway.
> >
> >
> >"McCallum, Robert" <robert.mccallum@thus.net> wrote:
> >But surely if you are a ccie and you leave a company it is your number.
>
> >My
> >ccie joining my company passed 6 years ago.
> >
> >Robert McCallum
> >CCIE #8757 R&S
> >01415663448
> >07818002241
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: miken [mailto:miken@sisna.com]
> > > Sent: 26 February 2004 21:07
> > > To: Scott Morris; 'McCallum, Robert'; 'Nki'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE # Association
> > >
> > >
> > > Moral to this story....leave on good terms and they may "let" you
> > > take your number with you =)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott Morris"
> > > To: "'miken'" ; "'McCallum, Robert'"
> > > ; "'Nki'" ;
> > >
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:27 PM
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE # Association
> > >
> > >
> > > > This can be changed. As long as Cisco gets the permission of your
> > > previous
> > > > employer, then you can get it moved immediately. It's just
> > > a policy
> > > > put
> > > in
> > > > place to prevent corporate CCIE "raiding". :)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
> > > On Behalf
> > > > Of miken
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:28 PM
> > > > To: McCallum, Robert; 'Nki'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: Re: CCIE # Association
> > > >
> > > > You may find the information you are looking for in section
> > > 4 on page
> > > > 28:
> > > >
> > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/765/download/certification/au
> > > dit_062403.pdf
> > > > .
> > > > They way a read it, if you are terminated, you take your
> > > number with
> > > > you.
> > > If
> > > > you leave on a voluntary basis, your previous
> > > employer/Cisco partner
> > > > keeps YOUR number for 12 months..... =(
> > > >
> > > > Mike Nygard, CCIE#12602
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "McCallum, Robert"
> > > > To: "'Nki'" ;
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:09 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: CCIE # Association
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That's a good question - I would like to know how you move a
> > > > > ccie from
> > > one
> > > > company to another. We have one starting with us but his number is
> > > already
> > > > associated to another company.
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert McCallum
> > > > > CCIE #8757 R&S
> > > > > 01415663448
> > > > > 07818002241
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Nki [mailto:nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk]
> > > > > > Sent: 26 February 2004 18:42
> > > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > > Subject: OT: CCIE # Association
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do you find out if your ccie # is in use by a company?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will Cisco send a notification email, to let you know that the
>
> > > > > > company you work for has put in a request to use your number
> > > > > > to acheive a level of partnership with Cisco ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does your number automatically gets linked with the company
> > > > > > information on your CCO Profile ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping"
> > > your friends
> > > > > > today! Download Messenger Now
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ______________________________________________________________
> > > > > > _________
> > > > > > Please help support GroupStudy by purchasing your study
> > > materials
> > > > > > from: http://shop.groupstudy.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subscription information may be found at:
> > > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > ____________________________________________________________________
> > > > > ___
> > > > > Please help support GroupStudy by purchasing your study
> > > materials from:
> > > > > http://shop.groupstudy.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Subscription information may be found at:
> > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ____________________________________________________________________
> > > __
> > > > _
> > > > Please help support GroupStudy by purchasing your study
> > > materials from:
> > > > http://shop.groupstudy.com
> > > >
> > > > Subscription information may be found at:
> > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ____________________________________________________________________
> > > __
> > > > _
> > > > Please help support GroupStudy by purchasing your study
> > > materials from:
> > > > http://shop.groupstudy.com
> > > >
> > > > Subscription information may be found at:
> > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >
> >_______________________________________________________________________
> >Please help support GroupStudy by purchasing your study materials from:
>
> >http://shop.groupstudy.com
> >
> >Subscription information may be found at:
> >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >Do you Yahoo!?
> >Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail
> >
> >_______________________________________________________________________
> >Please help support GroupStudy by purchasing your study materials from:
>
> >http://shop.groupstudy.com
> >
> >Subscription information may be found at:
> >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.
> http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin
> .msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Please help support GroupStudy by purchasing your study materials from:
> http://shop.groupstudy.com
>
> Subscription information may be found at:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Please help support GroupStudy by purchasing your study materials from:
> http://shop.groupstudy.com
>
> Subscription information may be found at:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Fri Mar 05 2004 - 07:13:58 GMT-3