RE: CCIE # Association

From: Yasser Aly (blackyeyes00@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Feb 27 2004 - 11:08:56 GMT-3


Hi Marko,

  I don't intend to start flamming anybody. I apologize if my openion
contradicted with others intrests. Wishing all the best for everyone in
their study.

I just wanted to ring an alarm that if CCIE was not managed one way or the
other it will slowly loose its value and I believe no one of those who spent
countless hours studying, lots of money, and sacrify their social life would
be happy with this.

Just have a look on the average number of people passing the exam few years
ago and recently and possibly this will ring a bell.

Peace for everyone.
Yasser

>From: "Marko Berend" <marko.berend@storm.hr>
>Reply-To: "Marko Berend" <marko.berend@storm.hr>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: RE: CCIE # Association
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:10:54 +0100
>
>Yasser,
>
>You are looking for CCIE value in the wrong place. It is not in how many
>times you take the exam.
>I personaly think your opinion is uninformed but I see nothing offensive
>about that.
>I also think you will probably change your mind once you start taking
>exams and embracing failures like the rest of us.
>
>Contrary to your belief, your post, if not offensive, it is at least an
>invitation to flaming.
>Don't take this the wrong way, I don't aim to dissrespect your oppinion,
>but other people have theirs too.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Yasser Aly [mailto:blackyeyes00@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:55 AM
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: CCIE # Association
>
>
>You wrote
>
> >From: "Jonathan Hays" <nomad@gfoyle.org>
> >Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 22:52:11 -0500
> >
> >you wrote:
>
>
> >So those of you who have not yet passed the CCIE lab exam after your
> >third try - ignore this guy's uninformed opinion and keep plugging
> >away.
> >
> >-Jonathan
> >
>=====================
>
>Dear Group,
>
> As I said before, my openion can be right or wrong. My openion doesn't
>not
>mean at all that I don't truely respect the persistence and willingness
>from
>people to pass the exam whatever it takes.
>
> It is just an idea to maintain the value of CCIE for its holders - I
>am
>not one of those so far, so I am not biased -Just tryin g to delay the
>day
>when we wake p and find CCIE value like other declined certificates.
>Will
>any of us be happy by that time ?
>Will anyone of spend countless hours studying, dedicated, and countless
>hours sacrifiing his social life be happy ?
>
>My openion doesn't carry at all any offensive to anyone.
>
>However, I find your comment quotted above is offensive to me. Maybe you
>
>don't like my openion, but this doesn't give you the right to point to
>me by
>saying "this guy's uninformed openion". Please Mr. Jonathan, your
>openions
>and arguments are always welcomed as long as you respect people infront
>of
>you.
>
>
>Regards,
>Yasser
>
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