From: christopher snow (cbsnow31@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Dec 18 2003 - 18:25:40 GMT-3
Brian,
If it werent for the two of you, groupstudy would not
be the same. I can attest that your replies to the
numerous questions have helped me tremendously. I
will be the first to say thank you! I wish you and
Brian the best of luck in your new business venture.
I have seen every major vendor's lab workbook (lot of
CCIEs where I work) ie. InternetworkExpert, NetMaster,
IpExpert, Boson, CCboootcamp, and Hello Computers.
All of the lab books have their own way of providing
information, and I have learned from all of them. But
I can say honestly without prejudice, that your
product has set a new standard in technical accuracy,
technical challenge, real world relevance (not just
stupid router tricks), and customer support. I too
was shocked that Paul blasted you the way he did. If
he removes you from the list then I will leave as
well. Not that I would be missed :)
Chris Snow
--- Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
wrote:
> Paul,
> As far as supporting GroupStudy, I don't see how
> you can honestly
> say that Brian McGahan and I do not support
> GroupStudy. Both of us have
> spent countless hours replying to hundreds of
> postings on GroupStudy. In
> the past year alone we have replied to nearly 1000
> e-mails on GroupStudy.
> If someone was really interested in supporting
> GroupStudy, they should not
> only give 'money', but give their 'time' helping the
> people here on this
> list.
> Brian McGahan and I have offered both. If there
> were not people willing to
> give up their own time to help others (Scott Morris,
> Howard Berkowitz, Dave
> Madland, and countless others) where would
> GroupStudy be today?
>
> Although we are not selling our workbook in your
> store, we have
> offered many times (without your reply) to purchase
> banner ads to help
> support GroupStudy. As I have personally offered
> numerous times in the
> past, I will cover your monthly hosting fees in
> regards to the GroupStudy
> servers. This offer still holds true today.
>
> It is not fair to IPExpert and CertificationZone
> (both resellers in
> your store) that you make a recommendation to buy
> NetMaster's CCIE products
> over their CCIE products. Isn't GroupStudy supposed
> to be a vendor
> independent list?
>
> Lastly, I hope that this e-mail does not get Brian
> McGahan or I
> removed from the list. Personally I've been here
> for 4 years and truly
> enjoy answering questions and helping others. If
> GroupStudy needs financial
> support just tell me where to send a check.
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> Borghese
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:29 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: NETMASTER
>
> Internetworking Experts have chosen not to support
> GroupStudy by
> allowing us to sell their product in the store.
> Netmaster and IP Expert
> does support us by allowing us to sell their product
> in the store. The
> amount of money we receive from reselling both
> products is very generous
> and allows me to pay the $500/month bill for the
> operation of
> GroupStudy.
>
> If you are in the market and are debating between
> Netmaster and Internet
> Experts, please take a hard look at Netmaster.
> Netmaster seems to be
> the current market leader, they have fantastic
> support, and are very
> proactive with keeping the product updated. The
> Netmaster authors are
> well regarded for their book Bridges, Routers and
> Switches for CCIEs,
> which seems to be a "Must Have" for CCIE Students
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0130903892/groupstudycom.
> Go to any bookstore and take a look at their CCIE
> prep book to get an
> idea of their writing style. A sample lab of the
> Netmaster product is
> available at:
>
>
http://shop.groupstudy.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_24&products_id=33.
>
>
> This month we have been allowed to sell the
> Netmaster product for $120
> off the regular price. This special is good until
> December 31.
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> arvindyadav@comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:12 AM
> To: Brian McGahan; 'Tariq'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: NETMASTER
>
> I was aware of only Inexpert and Netmasters. I
> haven't heard about
> "Internetwork Expert's CCIE Routing & Switching Lab
> Workbook". It looks
> very
> impressive, Does anyone used this book...any
> feedback
>
> Paul: Do you have this book on gorupstudy to
> purchase.
>
> I am not happy with IPexpert at all, for the name
> of solution they just
> provide only router configs.. not a single work for
> explanation. It's
> very
> frustrating sometimes when you got stuck somewhere
> and you don't find
> any
> details.
>
> regds
> Arivnd
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian McGahan"
> <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> To: "'Tariq'" <tariq.bin.azad@cox.net>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 5:42 PM
> Subject: RE: NETMASTER
>
>
> > Tariq,
> >
> > As one of the authors of Internetwork Expert's
> CCIE Routing &
> > Switching Lab Workbook I'm obviously going to be
> biased as to which
> one
> you
> > should choose, but let me give you a small piece
> of advice. There are
> a
> > number of products available to help you study for
> the CCIE Routing &
> > Switching Lab Exam: self-paced workbooks,
> instructor led classes,
> distance
> > learning, etc. Different people learn better
> different ways. What
> works
> > for you may not necessarily work for someone else.
> >
> > The majority of self-paced products available
> include a sample
> > chapter for free, mine included. Instead of
> basing your decision on
> other
> > people's comments check out the products yourself
> and make your own
> judgment
> > call.
> >
> > Here are some links to some of the self-paced
> products and their
> > accompanying sample chapters:
> >
> > IPExpert 5.0:
> >
>
http://www.ipexpert.net/downloads/IPexpert_R&S_Sample.zip
> >
> > Internetwork Expert's CCIE Routing & Switching Lab
> Workbook:
> > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/012000358.htm
> >
>
http://www.internetworkexpert.com/downloads/iewb-rs.sample.lab.pdf
> >
> > NetMasterClass DOiT:
> > http://www.netmasterclass.net/site/doit1.php
> >
>
http://www.netmasterclass.net/site/pdf/DOiT-SAMPLE-SCENARIO.pdf
> >
>
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