From: Richard L. Pickard (nettable_walker@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Oct 22 2003 - 21:27:36 GMT-3
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Deluzio, Jamey A (Jamey)
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:36 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE grading script
I think there are some significant problems with the way the labs are
graded and the "Cisco Way". For the money we spend I don't think that a
rescore should even be an option because the test should be graded
correctly the 1st time. I know that rescores rarely come back as a pass
but quite often I believe they come back with more points added.
On top of that I've seen numerous e-mails where people admit they
received credit on sections that they did not attempt or complete or
received impossible percentages based on the values of the questions in
the section.
There was also a thread here
(http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200307/msg01786.html) where
someone proved to Cisco that there was a flaw in the lab he was given
and he was able to retake the lab at no cost. I wonder if they
contacted anyone else who had received the faulty lab and offered to let
them retake the test (I'm sure at least some of the people attempted to
work with the proctor on the faulty section and were just told to
"re-read the question".
I apologize if I sound bitter but for the price we deserve an honest
test and an accurate score report that actually means something.
Passing the CCIE Lab is a huge accomplishment and very valuable but I
feel that Cisco has lost site of the fact that their certification tests
are products and we the test takers are customers.
Jamey
-----Original Message-----
From: k c [mailto:jwongccie@yahoo.com.hk]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 5:09 AM
To: seonghui; 'Kaiser Anwar'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE grading script
How do we know the Cisco-way? Heard many times that if our
configurations don't match the Cisco's answer, then we may get wrong
even we meet the target. Is the Cisco-way already hidden in the question
and we don't understand the Cisco-word? For example, if Cisco expects
"NAT" is the final solution, but we use another method to complete the
request, will we lose mark? It is not fair if no hints can be found in
the questions?
Tan Chai Heng <tanch@kuala-lumpur.sns.slb.com> wrote:Hi SeongHui,
"I think the most important thing to pass the exam is not only getting
the
configurations work, but you must meet certain criterias or ways of
configuring the lab that cisco expects you to do...I call it the
'cisco-way'."
What do you mean by the "Cisco way"?
Thanks!
CH
At 03:50 PM 9/25/2003, seonghui wrote:
>Hi Anwar,
>
>I had the chance of talking to the proctor in Sydney during lunch time
and
>raised the same question to him. He told me that the script is a very
>intelligent program 'custom made' to mark the different labs. According
to
>him, this script acts as a helper to them to do some ping, pick up the
>routes in the routing table, check the necessary protocols, commands
etc.
>
>However, if the script marks wrong for certain sections, the proctor
will
>personally look at those sections. If it makes sense to him and thinks
that
>your config is ok, he will award you the point. However, if it is a
rescore,
>your config will be loaded by a proctor in another location, and he
will
>manually mark the config without running the script.
>
>The above was the answer from the proctor in Sydney. He is a very nice,
>helpful and friendly guy. I believe the marking system is fair and
>accurate...eventhough i didn't make it to pass on the first attempt. I
think
>the most important thing to pass the exam is not only getting the
>configurations work, but you must meet certain criterias or ways of
>configuring the lab that cisco expects you to do...I call it the
>'cisco-way'.
>
>regards - SH
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