From: Thomas Larus (tlarus@cox.net)
Date: Sun Oct 19 2003 - 18:59:48 GMT-3
I just noticed that the Beau Williamson book is also available through
amazon "used" for a little under 10 dollars. So it would affordable to buy
them both.
I am actually surprised to see that book going so cheap, but I guess they
printed a lot of them in 2000.
Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
Author of CCIE Warm-Up: Advice and Learning Labs, distributed by
www.ipexpert.com
tlarus@ipexpert.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan V Hays" <jhays@jtan.com>
To: "'Michael Miller'" <ihatecisco@att.net>; "'ccie2be'"
<ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "'Jason Viera'" <jasonviera@avenuecable.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: Mcast on the Lab
> I've searched but cannot find any book on multicast by Parkhurst.
>
> Are you possibly referring to the Cisco Press book "Developing IP
> Multicast Networks Volume 1" by Beau Williamson (ISBN 1-57870-077-9)?
>
> Please advise,
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Michael Miller
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 3:12 AM
> To: ccie2be; Jason Viera; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Mcast on the Lab
>
>
> i would look for the book that parkhurst put out on multicast. I was
> lucky
> enough to run across this book at a compusa where it was marked down!!!
> what
> luck. There is that other cisco press book that has some good stuff in
> it.
>
> no short cuts though. ;-)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
> To: "Jason Viera" <jasonviera@avenuecable.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Mcast on the Lab
>
>
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > 1st of all, it's not a stupid question. I'm sure most everybody on GS
> would
> > like a definitive answer to the question you asked. However, anyone
> who
> could
> > give you a definitive answer and did would be violating the nda.
> >
> > So, here's how I think about it. Multicast, itself, is not a core
> topic,
> > therefore the number of points assigned to it will be relatively small
> -
> my
> > guess is somewhere between 4 and 6 points. Also, you should remind
> yourself
> > every now and then that unlike some other topics like frame relay, for
> > example, any points lost on multicast won't cause the loss of points
> on
> any
> > other topic.
> >
> > So, given the number of points assigned to multicast, some of which
> will
> be
> > assigned to the "core" multicast topics you've already mentioned, how
> many
> > points does that leave for the "non-core" multicast topics? Not many.
> So,
> > therefore, the question you're asking can be restated as, "How much
> time
> > should I allocate to non-core multicast topics that, at most, are
> worth
> only a
> > few points of the test score and might not be assigned any points?"
> >
> > Another thing I would keep in mind is the issue of opportunity cost,
> in
> other
> > words, how many points could you have avoided losing on core topics if
> the
> > time you spent on the various non-core multicast topics were instead
> spent
> > practicing the core topics? I don't know about you, but for me, my
> brain
> is
> > like a leaky bucket - if a time A, I have perfect knowledge of OSPF or
> BGP,
> > if I spend several weeks studying other topics and it's now time B, I
> don't
> > have perfect knowledge anymore of OSPF of BGP.
> >
> > I suspect that the best answer anyone can provide you is that this is
> a
> > decision you have to make for yourself. And, of course, none of us
> really
> > know what specific topics or points for that topic will be on the
> exam.
> > Theoretically, it's possible that Cisco will have 15 points assigned
> to
> MSDP
> > and SSM on the particular test you take.
> >
> > HTH, dt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason Viera" <jasonviera@avenuecable.com>
> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:55 PM
> > Subject: Mcast on the Lab
> >
> >
> > > I hate asking stupid questions along these lines since we all know
> that
> > > anything is fair game in the CCIE lab, but would anyone like to
> elaborate
> > on
> > > which aspects of mcast I should study. Obviously items like PIM
> sparse
> and
> > > dense mode as well as IGMP, Auto-rp and BSR should be known
> thoroughly,
> but
> > > what about MSDP(Anycast RP), Bidirectional PIM, SSM, PGM, UDLR and
> so
> > on.....
> > > Obviously there are very few shortcuts when it some to studying for
> this
> > > beast, but some topics definitely carry more weight then others, any
> > comments
> > > would be greatly appreciated!!!
> > > TIA, Jason
> > >
> > >
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