From: Thomas Larus (tlarus@cox.net)
Date: Sun Oct 19 2003 - 18:46:08 GMT-3
Here is a link to the Parkhurst multicast book on amazon.
You will notice that it is available used (often overstock) for practically
no money at all ($3.95 or so). You ought to get Beau Williamson's book,
too, as it has received rave reviews, and is apparently the greatest book on
Cisco multicast . I own it but have not yet read all of it. I wish I had
bought it a long time ago. It's link is:
I happen to like Parkhurst's very approachable style, even though this book
has not received rave reviews, by any means. He obviously has fun with the
material and enjoys teaching about it. This multicast book may not be as
big a deal as his recent BGP book from Cisco press, which is fabulous and
makes learning BGP command syntax downright fun.
I believe in reading broadly from different authors, not in finding one
"best" text and only reading that. Sometimes the other texts teach some
lessons that the "best" text misses. Also, sometimes the "best" text is
written at such a high level that it is not very approachable, particularly
for some people whose first language is not English. A case in point is a
recent BSCI book from Cisco Press by Paquet and Teare. It has first-rate
content and is obviously written by seasoned professionals, but it is much
harder to read than it has to be. One might want to read a lesser book
first if it were written in a more approachable style, and then read this
first-rate one to absorb some fine points that you will only get from this
excellent book.
The risk you run with my approach of "reading broadly" is that you need to
be able to catch and filter out mistakes. The books that are not "number
one" sometimes have more mistakes.
Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
Author of CCIE Warm-Up: Advice and Learning Labs, distributed by
www.ipexpert.com
tlarus@ipexpert.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan V Hays" <jhays@jtan.com>
To: "'Michael Miller'" <ihatecisco@att.net>; "'ccie2be'"
<ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "'Jason Viera'" <jasonviera@avenuecable.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: Mcast on the Lab
> I've searched but cannot find any book on multicast by Parkhurst.
>
> Are you possibly referring to the Cisco Press book "Developing IP
> Multicast Networks Volume 1" by Beau Williamson (ISBN 1-57870-077-9)?
>
> Please advise,
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Michael Miller
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 3:12 AM
> To: ccie2be; Jason Viera; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Mcast on the Lab
>
>
> i would look for the book that parkhurst put out on multicast. I was
> lucky
> enough to run across this book at a compusa where it was marked down!!!
> what
> luck. There is that other cisco press book that has some good stuff in
> it.
>
> no short cuts though. ;-)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
> To: "Jason Viera" <jasonviera@avenuecable.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Mcast on the Lab
>
>
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > 1st of all, it's not a stupid question. I'm sure most everybody on GS
> would
> > like a definitive answer to the question you asked. However, anyone
> who
> could
> > give you a definitive answer and did would be violating the nda.
> >
> > So, here's how I think about it. Multicast, itself, is not a core
> topic,
> > therefore the number of points assigned to it will be relatively small
> -
> my
> > guess is somewhere between 4 and 6 points. Also, you should remind
> yourself
> > every now and then that unlike some other topics like frame relay, for
> > example, any points lost on multicast won't cause the loss of points
> on
> any
> > other topic.
> >
> > So, given the number of points assigned to multicast, some of which
> will
> be
> > assigned to the "core" multicast topics you've already mentioned, how
> many
> > points does that leave for the "non-core" multicast topics? Not many.
> So,
> > therefore, the question you're asking can be restated as, "How much
> time
> > should I allocate to non-core multicast topics that, at most, are
> worth
> only a
> > few points of the test score and might not be assigned any points?"
> >
> > Another thing I would keep in mind is the issue of opportunity cost,
> in
> other
> > words, how many points could you have avoided losing on core topics if
> the
> > time you spent on the various non-core multicast topics were instead
> spent
> > practicing the core topics? I don't know about you, but for me, my
> brain
> is
> > like a leaky bucket - if a time A, I have perfect knowledge of OSPF or
> BGP,
> > if I spend several weeks studying other topics and it's now time B, I
> don't
> > have perfect knowledge anymore of OSPF of BGP.
> >
> > I suspect that the best answer anyone can provide you is that this is
> a
> > decision you have to make for yourself. And, of course, none of us
> really
> > know what specific topics or points for that topic will be on the
> exam.
> > Theoretically, it's possible that Cisco will have 15 points assigned
> to
> MSDP
> > and SSM on the particular test you take.
> >
> > HTH, dt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason Viera" <jasonviera@avenuecable.com>
> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:55 PM
> > Subject: Mcast on the Lab
> >
> >
> > > I hate asking stupid questions along these lines since we all know
> that
> > > anything is fair game in the CCIE lab, but would anyone like to
> elaborate
> > on
> > > which aspects of mcast I should study. Obviously items like PIM
> sparse
> and
> > > dense mode as well as IGMP, Auto-rp and BSR should be known
> thoroughly,
> but
> > > what about MSDP(Anycast RP), Bidirectional PIM, SSM, PGM, UDLR and
> so
> > on.....
> > > Obviously there are very few shortcuts when it some to studying for
> this
> > > beast, but some topics definitely carry more weight then others, any
> > comments
> > > would be greatly appreciated!!!
> > > TIA, Jason
> > >
> > >
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