From: Tony Schaffran (groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com)
Date: Mon Aug 25 2003 - 23:31:15 GMT-3
Thank you Jonathan.
There is a long list of new features that are available after 12.2.1d. All
you have to do is read the release notes.
Because no one has seen the new test with the new 12.2 requirements yet, it
is hard for anyone to say what equipment you will need. If you are going to
learn the new features of 12.2, a 2500 will not do it for you. That is
basically what I am saying.
That sucks for us all, but you had to see it coming. The 2500 has been
around since 1993. It is time for it to die. It has been one hell of a
router, but we have to let it go. :)
Everybody studies in their own way and has their own idea of what equipment
will get them by. I just wanted to let Mark know the negative side to just
going out and buying a bunch of 2500's
Good luck everyone.
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
www.cconlinelabs.com
Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan V Hays [mailto:jhays@jtan.com]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:18 PM
To: 'Tony Schaffran'; 'Ian Stong'; 'Mark Rushby'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE lab kit
On the contrary, MOST OF the features available in 12.2 were available
in 12.1 and 12.0. Probably what Tony meant to say was that SOME of the
NEW features available in 12.2 are not available on 12.1. (I would be
interested in which specific features he is are referring to. I have the
2500 series 12.2(1d) image (Enterprise-FW-Plus-IPSec-56 feature set)
running at home and it seems to have most of the 12.2 QoS stuff.)
Having been through 3 attempts, my opinion is that spending big bucks
on the latest equipment and lots of time learning all the nuances of
some obscure new feature is not a good investment for passing the exam.
Most of this stuff falls in the same category as ATM: read over the area
in question; rent some rack time for $20 - $50 and you've done enough
studying. Buying a Lightstream 1010 to prepare for the CCIE lab is way
overkill. Same goes for anything a 2500 can't do. It's not worth
investing in high price equipment. You should spend 80% (or more) of
your studying time on the core protocols and 2500s will be just fine for
that effort.
But Tony is quite correct that if you are renting rack time to get VOIP,
ATM, or new 12.2 feature experience, find out what equipment and IOS
feature set they are running before you sign up.
-Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Tony Schaffran
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 5:53 PM
To: 'Ian Stong'; 'Mark Rushby'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE lab kit
Mark,
One thing to keep in mind when shopping for an online rack rental or
even
looking to purchase your own equipment, with the new 12.2 IOS
requirements,
2500's will not give you most of the features available in 12.2.
A lot of the little rack rental shops out there are still using mostly
2500's and plan on it for some time. Shop smart.
Regards,
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
http://www.cconlinelabs.com/
Your #1 choice for online cisco rack rentals.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Ian
Stong
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:15 PM
To: 'Mark Rushby'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE lab kit
How about http://www.ccie4u.com for rack rentals and lab scenarios
starting at $20
www.ccie4u.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Mark Rushby
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 4:10 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: CCIE lab kit
Hi All
I'm looking to buy, rent or use and online ccie lab kit any suggestions
are most welcome.
thanks
Mark
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