From: Jonathan V Hays (jhays@jtan.com)
Date: Tue May 20 2003 - 10:06:54 GMT-3
Donny,
Excellent post! Thanks for the attitude check. ;-)
-Jonathan
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> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf Of Donny MATEO
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 10:16 PM
> To: Roger McNeace
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Not a good day
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> While I agree failing the CCIE exam is sort of a black hole
> of confidence specially when you have 3-4 hours double
> checking everything. I learn one thing that is probaly not
> quite obvious. Is that by failing, I study harder, I learn
> deeper, I read the doc
> words by words, I learn to read and understand question more
> carefully and I learn to be a very details and ask the
> proctor to clarify any doubts I have until there is none or
> its close to 0%.
> It hurts when you failed an exam, but sometimes it's a good
> thing. When you lost your confidence you tends to be more
> open to alternative and set aside your ego (i'm right the
> router and the whole world are wrong attitude) and that
> enables you to see
> things in different perspective and learn new thing.
> The point I'm trying to make is failing the exam has earn me
> great rewards, the ability to understand question, the
> details work, the asking atitude (instead of well I think
> this should be like this attitude) and a deeper understanding
> of the knowledge
> required not only by the lab test by also in real life.
> Specially since I don't have any opportunity to join any of
> those bootcamp classes, limited equipment (I dig my own
> pocket which is not much considering I work in an end user
> company in singapore and
> under paid!) and time.
> So, don't give in, you still have a chance if you do it, you
> won't have a chance if you quit. Even 1/1000.000 is still a
> possibility, which is better than 0.
>
> Donny
> CCIE #11189
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> Roger McNeace
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> I feel your pain. I failed a couple a weeks ago. I finished
> the test with 3
> hours to spare, but I still failed. I also got low scores in
> areas where I
> thought I did well. I believe you are right with the fact that the
> questions need to read very carefully. I may have lost alot
> of points by not
> accurately interperting the hidden meaning of the question.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim, Wol - BLS CTR [mailto:Kim.Wol@bls.gov]
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 12:06 PM
> To: 'Joe Carr'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Not a good day
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> I also failed the lab yesterday in RTP and knew I missed a
> few questions,
> which made me think I might pass it. But they gave me scores
> the way below
> I expected even if failed. For example, on IGP section, most of the
> questions were familiar with me and had all connectivities
> for all routers
> but got below 50%...Not even close to... I didn't see any trick
> requirements and I configured without any major problem. It
> could be a
> problem with myself to interpret the questions but at least
> not that below
> scores.
> Now I start wondering if I will ever pass this test. I
> don't know if I
> have to keep going because I know the next preparation for
> the lab will be
> pretty much same as before.
> I also found backbone problem after wasting of quite long time.
> Seems like you have to be very precise to interpret the
> questions to pass
> the test, but I still don't see why I got that such a low scores.....
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> Wol
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Carr [mailto:Joe.Carr@oati.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 9:48 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Not a good day
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> Well, I took the lab in RTP yesterday and I got the same test as I had
> before. In some sections where I got 100% before I answered
> the same and did
> not get the full points! Also I had asked the proctor about a
> cretin section
> that was not working properly and he did not help until I
> asked him for the
> 3rd time and on another section the second time I asked him
> he gave me a
> different answer. It turned out that the backbone was messed
> up! What the
> %@#!. I have lost a little respect for the CCIE
> certification. I guess my
> question is should I pay the $250 to have them review my
> test? How long does
> that take?
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> Joe
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