From: Daniel Cisco Group Study (danielcgs@imc.net.au)
Date: Sun Apr 20 2003 - 21:53:20 GMT-3
Brian,
We look forward to the results with great anticipation.....
Also, in a previous post, you mentioned that you were working on a White Paper about Dialer Watch, which you intended to post. How's the progress on this one going?
Daniel
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Dennis [mailto:brian@labforge.com]
Sent: Sunday, 20 April 2003 04:14
To: 'Jonathan V Hays'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: MINCIR = CIR? (Was: Do you agree with this equation?)
Ironically after spending time testing FRTS out in a lab I'm beginning
to think that no ones answer has been 100% correct or 100% wrong ;-) And
hence none to the docs is 100% correct or even agrees with other
documentation (imagine that ;-). I've found as others have found many
docs that contradict other docs relating to FRTS.
Let me test this out a little more than I'll report to the list my
results. I think that we'll all be surprised.
Also as a side note I'm extremely impressed by the accuracy of the stats
from the various show commands (show traffic-shape statistics, show int,
etc). I can account for every packet and every bit I send through the
router.
To be continued.....
Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
Director of CCIE Training and Development - IPexpert, Inc.
Mailto: brian@ipexpert.net
Toll Free: 866.225.8064
Outside U.S. & Canada: 312.321.6924
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Jonathan V Hays
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 9:35 AM
To: 'Brian Dennis'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc: 'Brian Dennis'
Subject: RE: MINCIR = CIR? (Was: Do you agree with this equation?)
You're a good instructor - you have spotted my weakness. You are right -
I'm still a bit hazy on Be. Please spell it out.
Thanks,
Jonathan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Dennis [mailto:brian@5g.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 11:50 PM
> To: 'Jonathan V Hays'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Cc: 'Brian Dennis'
> Subject: RE: MINCIR = CIR? (Was: Do you agree with this equation?)
>
>
> Did you understand this thread in relation to Be? It throws a
> major monkey wrench into that Tech Tip.
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> Director of CCIE Training and Development - IPexpert, Inc.
> Mailto: brian@ipexpert.net
> Toll Free: 866.225.8064
> Outside U.S. & Canada: 312.321.6924
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan V Hays
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:53 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Cc: 'Brian Dennis'
> Subject: RE: MINCIR = CIR? (Was: Do you agree with this equation?)
>
> Brian,
>
> Like many others I appreciate your valuable input, however,
> on this issue of this document I must respectfully disagree
> with your assertion that people should not read it.
>
> >From what I see almost everything you and others have posted recently
> is
> in complete agreement with this document, except for the
> calculation of Tc for large values of Bc. Or did I miss
> additional posts on other specific faults of the document?
>
> Since it is difficult to get an overview of FRTS from piecing
> together dozens of posts on Groupstudy, I found the document
> to be a good learning tool, keeping in mind its inaccuracies.
> As far as that goes, most documents longer than a page or two
> tend to have some minor errors but that doesn't mean we
> should completely ignore an otherwise informative piece of writing.
>
> Again, I look upon you as an excellent resource and would
> appreciate the recommendation of a more accurate Cisco
> introduction to the subject of Frame Relay Traffic Shaping.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > Behalf Of Brian Dennis
> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 9:57 AM
> > To: 'John Mistichelli'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: MINCIR = CIR? (Was: Do you agree with this equation?)
> >
> >
> > This is the tech tip I and others have referred to as being
> > incorrect. Hopefully people won't read it ;-)
> >
> > Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> > Director of CCIE Training and Development - IPexpert, Inc.
> > Mailto: brian@ipexpert.net
> > Toll Free: 866.225.8064
> > Outside U.S. & Canada: 312.321.6924
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > Behalf Of John Mistichelli
> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 5:12 AM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: MINCIR = CIR? (Was: Do you agree with this equation?)
> >
> > Found a half decent tech tip on this. Hope it helps.
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/tech/tk713/tk237/technolog
> > ies_config
> > uration_example09186a00800942f8.shtml
> >
> > John
> > 7536
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