From: cebuano (cebu2ccie@cox.net)
Date: Tue Apr 01 2003 - 15:22:03 GMT-3
George,
You are absolutely correct. However, people (i.e. customers) might NOT
necessarily know the limitations/scope of what's covered in the CCIE
R&S, let alone distinguish between the different TRACKS of CCIE. That
said, most often their assumptions are their reality. This is similar to
the early days of MCSE (and I'm sure other certs for that matter) where
the expectations did not match the certification goals. Knowing that
many customers view the CCIE cert as one of the top, if not THE top,
networking cert these days, it's very easy to lose their confidence on a
CCIE if he/she exhibits some degree of doubt on what they perceive a
CCIE should be an EXPERT in.
But my goal is NOT just to learn what's tested in the lab, but to become
proficient in the technology (and many others) like Howard Berkowitz.
Thanks for your comments.
Elmer
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Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:04 AM
To: Group Study; cebuano
Subject: Re: Frame Relay book recommendation
The fact that your CCIE friend can't remember everything off the top of
his head, does not make him a bad CCIE or network engineer. This field
is
very broad and the amount of knowledge you are required to acquire to
take
the CCIE is quite significant. The fact is, if you don't do frame relay
regularly, you aren't going to remember all of the details regarding
that
technology. The same applies to DLSW, token ring, EIGRP (old or new
technologies) and whatever else you can think of. The hope is that a
CCIE
level individual, will be able to quickly resolve real life situations
quickly, by knowing where to find the CORRECT answers and understanding
the technologies involved in order to implement the solutions.
Now, as far as Frame Relay resources go, I would I hardly believe there
is
a need for an entire book on this topic. There are many technical
documents on this topic on Cisco's web site and in the Group Study
archives. If you have some specific questions, you should go ahead and
post them here and I'm sure you will get your questions answered.
Regards,
George Bekmezian
CCIE# 10704
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Re: Frame Relay book recommendation
Hi,
Before reading Caslow's book, I felt the same way as yourself. While he
doesn't cover everything there is to know about F/R, if you know
everything
about F/R that's in that book, you'll be well on your way. Jim
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From: "cebuano" <cebu2ccie@cox.net>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:35 AM
Subject: Frame Relay book recommendation
> Hi Group,
> I'm in search of an excellent book on the Frame Relay technology,
> similar to the level of Doyle's TCP/IP and Clark's LAN Switching.
> After reading the different acronyms and formulas involved with FR and
> QoS, I feel I'd be better informed if there's a source that can
> illustrate in concise and precise manner how and why FR is the way it
> is. I don't want what happened to a CCIE friend happen to me ("What?
> You're a CCIE and you don't know this stuff?"). I mean I would like to
> LEARN this in a way that I can teach the technology off the top of my
> head. Thanks in advance.
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