RE: The number of CCIEs grows faster today

From: Mike Williams (ccie2be@swbell.net)
Date: Tue Mar 25 2003 - 19:28:31 GMT-3

I would agree. I don't think the CCIE has lost value. It's funny that
most of the people that seem to think it has lost value are people that
already have their number. =)

But a asked a friend of mine (CCIE #54xx) what he thought about my
finishing it, and it's value, and his response was, definitely finish
it.

I also agree that a CCIE isn't a job guarantee nor a guarantee of a huge
salary. But if you work and get experience, the CCIE may definitely
give you an edge over someone else with experience but experience that's
more limited (i.e. they have 3 years experience, but only in a shop
running 5500s, 2500's and RIP). I still think that CCIE on the resume
is a definite door-opener as well.

My 2 cents.
Mike W.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Mohamed, Liban [GMG]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:44 PM
To: 'Lasserre, Gregory (Gregory)'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: The number of CCIEs grows faster today

I think people are missing the point of getting CCIE. just because you
have CCIE doesn't mean you are grantee a job. It's what you bring to the
table. so I don't think CCIE lost it's value, If it did then this group
should be closed. And Everyone is sacrificing to get this #.

Liban Mohamed
IP Engineer
Sprintlink Backbone Engineering
www.sprint.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Lasserre, Gregory (Gregory) [mailto:lasserre@lucent.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:07 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: The number of CCIEs grows faster today

As for me it seems clear that the CCIE certification
has lost value...

It's really a shame thinking of all the sacrifices
we made to get it.

Gregory. 

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LUCENT Technologies O
LWS - Professional Services 

Gregory LASSERRE 
Senior Network Consultant

# CCIE 5882
e-mail : lasserre@lucent.com

-----Message d'origine-----
De : MADMAN [mailto:dmadlan@qwest.com]
Envoye : mardi 25 mars 2003 15:32
A : Phong Tran Tien
Cc : ccielab@groupstudy.com
Objet : Re: The number of CCIEs grows faster today

   The program actually started in 93, next to me is CCIE 1040, I took 
mine 2 1/2 years after so I would say it is growing more quickly;)

  Dave

Phong Tran Tien wrote:
> Hi group,
>  
> I see the truth that the number of CCIEs grows faster today than 
> before. I
took and passed the lab on 19 March, got the number #11285 and I notice
that Mr Ozan Ocal, CCIE #11318, got his number on 22 March. It means
that we have about 33 new CCIEs (11318-11285) in only 3 days (19 to 22
March). Someone told me that the number of new CCIEs is 400 each month
this year, is it true? If it is true, in this year we will have about
new 4,800 CCIEs.
>  
> The CCIE program started in 1994 and up to this time, it's about 10 
> years
long, and the total number of CCIEs in the world is now about 10,300
(the first CCIE got number 1025). It means that on average the number of
CCIEs grows 1,030 each year (10,300/10). But compare with the number
above, 4,800 this year, how do you think? Does this mean that, when the
number of CCIEs increases faster, CCIE certification is easier to get
and the value of the certification decreases?
>  
> Tran Tien Phong
> CCIE #11285
> 
> 

-- 
David Madland
CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one 
behind me."
--- General George S. Patton

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