From: Dennis Laganiere (dennisl@advancedbionics.com)
Date: Tue Mar 25 2003 - 19:14:26 GMT-3
Sounds like you've got an excellent approach.
Let me know when the book comes out; I'll want to buy a signed first
edition. With your attitude, I'm sure you'll be successful...
--- Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: tlarus@cox.net [mailto:tlarus@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:27 AM
To: Gary Duncanson; Phong Tran Tien
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: RE: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
Nicely put.
Furthermore, it is counter-productive to obsess over the numbers of CCIEs
and worry about some decline in the value of the CCIE over time.
When I was in the final stages of CCIE Lab preparation, I was concerned that
I might pass the CCIE lab but not get a good job, since I did not have a lot
of paid "industry experience." I chose to go on faith that I would get
something good and that I would eventually reach my long term goal of
becoming a first-rate (and well-paid) contract instructor and author of
training materials.
I found something good, and I am still pursuing my long-term goals. I am
working on a book of general advice and lab scenarios aimed at early stage
CCIE preparation. The labs will be not be as complex or require quite as
much equipment as the commercial labs, but they will teach some lessons
taught in advanced labs. This book will share the space in the market
currently occupied by the Hutnik and Saterlee CCIE Lab Kit book (the one
with scenarios and detailed explanations-- not their more basic book.) It
will be a warm-up to the commercial labs and the fully stocked rental racks.
I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but my own experience is that the CCIE
has added enormously to my marketability in IT. I get contacted pretty
regularly by recruiters, and, while I do not pretend that I would get
offered most of the jobs I am contacted about, I have actually turned down
some work recently.
Best regards,
Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
>
> From: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@avt.co.uk>
> Date: 2003/03/25 Tue AM 04:15:56 EST
> To: "Phong Tran Tien" <PhongTT2@FPT.COM.VN>
> CC: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Subject: RE: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
>
> It's an interesting point. There are more folks going for it than ever
before and more resources to choose from but the basic requirement to obtain
the number is still the same as I'm sure you would agree; ability,
determination and extreme hard work over a very long period of time. The
CCIE is still very difficult to obtain and still an elite qualification.
Many more are failing than passing. More CCIE's just means folks need to be
as good as they say they are. More CCIEs also means more industry awareness
of the qualification which leads to job openings for those who are
qualified.
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phong Tran Tien [mailto:PhongTT2@FPT.COM.VN]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:29 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
>
>
> Hi group,
>
> I see the truth that the number of CCIEs grows faster today than before. I
took and passed the lab on 19 March, got the number #11285 and I notice that
Mr Ozan Ocal, CCIE #11318, got his number on 22 March. It means that we have
about 33 new CCIEs (11318-11285) in only 3 days (19 to 22 March). Someone
told me that the number of new CCIEs is 400 each month this year, is it
true? If it is true, in this year we will have about new 4,800 CCIEs.
>
> The CCIE program started in 1994 and up to this time, it's about 10 years
long, and the total number of CCIEs in the world is now about 10,300 (the
first CCIE got number 1025). It means that on average the number of CCIEs
grows 1,030 each year (10,300/10). But compare with the number above, 4,800
this year, how do you think? Does this mean that, when the number of CCIEs
increases faster, CCIE certification is easier to get and the value of the
certification decreases?
>
> Tran Tien Phong
> CCIE #11285
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