From: tlarus@cox.net
Date: Tue Mar 25 2003 - 16:27:02 GMT-3
Nicely put.
Furthermore, it is counter-productive to obsess over the numbers of CCIEs and worry about some decline in the value of the CCIE over time.
When I was in the final stages of CCIE Lab preparation, I was concerned that I might pass the CCIE lab but not get a good job, since I did not have a lot of paid "industry experience." I chose to go on faith that I would get something good and that I would eventually reach my long term goal of becoming a first-rate (and well-paid) contract instructor and author of training materials.
I found something good, and I am still pursuing my long-term goals. I am working on a book of general advice and lab scenarios aimed at early stage CCIE preparation. The labs will be not be as complex or require quite as much equipment as the commercial labs, but they will teach some lessons taught in advanced labs. This book will share the space in the market currently occupied by the Hutnik and Saterlee CCIE Lab Kit book (the one with scenarios and detailed explanations-- not their more basic book.) It will be a warm-up to the commercial labs and the fully stocked rental racks.
I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but my own experience is that the CCIE has added enormously to my marketability in IT. I get contacted pretty regularly by recruiters, and, while I do not pretend that I would get offered most of the jobs I am contacted about, I have actually turned down some work recently.
Best regards,
Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
>
> From: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@avt.co.uk>
> Date: 2003/03/25 Tue AM 04:15:56 EST
> To: "Phong Tran Tien" <PhongTT2@FPT.COM.VN>
> CC: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Subject: RE: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
>
> It's an interesting point. There are more folks going for it than ever before and more resources to choose from but the basic requirement to obtain the number is still the same as I'm sure you would agree; ability, determination and extreme hard work over a very long period of time. The CCIE is still very difficult to obtain and still an elite qualification. Many more are failing than passing. More CCIE's just means folks need to be as good as they say they are. More CCIEs also means more industry awareness of the qualification which leads to job openings for those who are qualified.
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phong Tran Tien [mailto:PhongTT2@FPT.COM.VN]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:29 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
>
>
> Hi group,
>
> I see the truth that the number of CCIEs grows faster today than before. I took and passed the lab on 19 March, got the number #11285 and I notice that Mr Ozan Ocal, CCIE #11318, got his number on 22 March. It means that we have about 33 new CCIEs (11318-11285) in only 3 days (19 to 22 March). Someone told me that the number of new CCIEs is 400 each month this year, is it true? If it is true, in this year we will have about new 4,800 CCIEs.
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> The CCIE program started in 1994 and up to this time, it's about 10 years long, and the total number of CCIEs in the world is now about 10,300 (the first CCIE got number 1025). It means that on average the number of CCIEs grows 1,030 each year (10,300/10). But compare with the number above, 4,800 this year, how do you think? Does this mean that, when the number of CCIEs increases faster, CCIE certification is easier to get and the value of the certification decreases?
>
> Tran Tien Phong
> CCIE #11285
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