From: Paul Borghese (pborghese@groupstudy.com)
Date: Tue Mar 25 2003 - 01:28:58 GMT-3
I'm CCIE #3760. Years later I met CCIE #3758 who obtained his CCIE a
month after mine! He was living in England at the time.
Paul Borghese
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Donny MATEO
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:07 PM
To: Peter van Oene
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; nobody@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
Another fact to add, I received my number on 3rd of March. and somehow,
I saw a mail from another guy who did the test 3 - 4 days after me and
got a lower number than mine.
Perhaps this number thing is assigned per region, like an NAT pool or
something that is preallocated. So the new number that showed up in the
list doesn't necessarily means that the other pool on the other testing
center has been fully used. In networking
term = discontiguous ; - )
Donny
Peter van Oene
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25-03-2003 10:01
Please respond to
Peter van Oene
At 05:28 AM 3/25/2003 +0700, Phong Tran Tien wrote:
>Hi group,
>
>I see the truth that the number of CCIEs grows faster today than
before. I
>took and passed the lab on 19 March, got the number #11285 and I notice
>that Mr Ozan Ocal, CCIE #11318, got his number on 22 March. It means
that
>we have about 33 new CCIEs (11318-11285) in only 3 days (19 to 22
March).
>Someone told me that the number of new CCIEs is 400 each month this
year,
>is it true? If it is true, in this year we will have about new 4,800
CCIEs.
>
>The CCIE program started in 1994 and up to this time, it's about 10
years
>long, and the total number of CCIEs in the world is now about 10,300
(the
>first CCIE got number 1025). It means that on average the number of
CCIEs
>grows 1,030 each year (10,300/10). But compare with the number above,
>4,800 this year, how do you think? Does this mean that, when the number
of
>CCIEs increases faster, CCIE certification is easier to get and the
value
>of the certification decreases?
This drives me nuts. In 93/94 or whenever the program launched, very
little folks knew about it. Since then, it has become more and more
well
known and thus more and more folks have decided to attack it. Further,
the
amount of study material has grown exponentially since then. Of course
the
rate of certification is higher now: it has to be.
Expecting that the rate would remain consistent would mean that the
degree
of difficultly would need to rise in line with demand. Is this fair?
Even
so, what would it represent? Ideally, the program is meant to certify
those folks who are adept at dealing with IOS in its many favours and
various network topologies. If more folks decide to learn these skills,
then more folks should become certified. We shouldn't make the test
harder
just to stem the rate of growth.
Just because you passed a test, lab or otherwise, doesn't mean you are
worth a six figure salary. If you haven't figured that out, you might
want
to study a little longer and realize that there is more to business than
rapidly building weird networks in short periods of time.
Pete
>
>Tran Tien Phong
>CCIE #11285
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