From: Jerry (phase90@comcast.net)
Date: Sun Feb 23 2003 - 20:21:01 GMT-3
Gentlemen [ and lady or 2 ] ,
This may be a stupid question but here goes. Why don't
the questions on this list violate the CCIE NDA. I have only taken the lab
once but I know there are several different real labs
that must be rotated in and out in some fasion. The first time I read the
list the day after I took my
lab I saw the exact same questions that were on my lab. This would mean
either someone else at RTP
or possiblt another lab had the exact same scenario as I did. This is what I
wonder. Why isn't the
whole list an NDA violation? Please exaplain at anyone's convenience.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: OhioHondo <ohiohondo@columbus.rr.com>
To: <ray_gan74@hotmail.com>; Sean <groupstudyccielab@datalion.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: Suggestion - FAQ of CCIE Lab
> I think the FAQ idea is a good one, however..... I also believe there is
> another issue. Teaching/Instructing is a darn good way to learn -- to
> solidify your thoughts on a subject and express them to another.
>
> Everyone on this forum is in a different place in their CCIE lab
> preparation. For those on the last legs of their study preparation, these
> "simple", oft answered questions might be an annoyance. To others they are
a
> learning opportunity both the the one who asks the question and the one(s)
> who answer it. Seeing others' points of view on a subject, or seeing where
> our study partners might be mis-directed so we can help or "answering a
> question" and being corrected by someone who has a better grasp of the
> technology -- these are all valuable.
>
> I agree that some of the questioners should do more research prior to
asking
> their questions. They should not take the easy way out and expect a total
> explanation of a technology to come from this forum. (Incidentally, this
> approach probably confuses them rather than help because of the multitude
of
> answers that are typically given.) But I also believe that anyone should
be
> allowed to ask any question --- for all of the good reasons mentioned
above.
>
> Note --- It's not the questions that are the majority of the e-mails that
I
> receive from this forum. It's the multitude of answers, requests for
> clarification on a question, etc. In other words, it's the ones that are
> trying to help, or the ones that are trying to discuss that are creating
the
> majority of the e-mails. This is not necessarily a bad thing -- however
> e-mail is not a good media for holding discussions.
>
> Here is another scenario that causes extended strings on a single string.
I
> have been guilty of causing this one. Sometimes a question is too open
ended
> (not specific enough)and I provide an answer that is not complete or cover
> all the possibilities -- because I don't take the time to cover all the
> possibilites on the open ended question. I have to applaud people like Kym
> Blair who consistantly take the time to first clarify the question and
then
> give a full answer to these queries. (There are others but Kym is a great
> example.) Giving complete answers cuts down on the entire discussion.
>
> Just one more time --- the majority of the e-mails are answers to
questions.
> Some of the answers are just comraderie, friendly banter, between
ourselves.
> This social aspect of the forum, between all of those 'bleeding' through
> their CCIE preparation, also has a value.
>
> With the CCO, archives and all the other resources available for study --
> the CCIE groupstudy has its' place. Adding a FAQ's, that has accurate and
> complete explanations, can't be a bad thing. But it is redundant to many
> other possible sources of non-interactive information. (Well e-mail,
pseudo
> interactive)
>
> Just my 2 cents.........
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> ray_gan74@hotmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 11:53 AM
> To: Sean; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Suggestion - FAQ of CCIE Lab
>
>
> I think its a great idea! That way if there is a question that has been
> answered many times before we can just refer them to the FAQ. In
addition
> we won't see anymore pissed off threads why people always ask the same
> question.
>
>
> Ray
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean" <groupstudyccielab@datalion.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:05 AM
> Subject: Suggestion - FAQ of CCIE Lab
>
>
> > Since many on the list think subscribers should search and/or research
> more
> > instead of asking same basic question repeatedly, I suggest we compile
an
> > FAQ for CCIE Lab takers. It should be posted to this list frequently,
say
> > every month or quarter depending on the resource we have.
> >
> > A few days ago, someone wanted to collect CCIE Lab gotcha, and those
study
> > points can be good candidate for the FAQ. What do you think?
> >
> > Sean
> > CCIE 90XX
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