RE: Thinking out loud, you still got a mind with thoughts

From: Dennis (cc13@attbi.com)
Date: Sun Feb 23 2003 - 10:10:39 GMT-3


Well said Jennifer! That's always been a problem with this list. Some
questions here are so basic that any self respecting CCNA could answer
them, yet they're posted here where passing the written is supposedly a
requirement. Other questions are asked monthly with the same canned
answer time after time. Hopefully people will learn what search engines,
books, and CCO are for and stop using this list as the quick and easy
way to find information.

Remember people, if you want to be a CCIE, and especially a good one,
you can't run to others every time you need to find information. A good
CCIE researches and finds information independently.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Jennifer Bellucci
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:15 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Thinking out loud, you still got a mind with thoughts inside?

Hello Group members and what-have-you

I have been reading some of the mails on the list and have been feeling
slightly, well pissed off.
You see people sending mails about what subjects are on the lab, what's
not on
the lab, where can I find this and what's that. That's all fair and
good,
that's why this group exists. What really gets to me is that people
don't
bother reading through the archives or going on CCO to look first.
70% of the mails could be avoided by just reading instead of being
spoon-fed
the information. These people are either mentally impaired in a way that
is
not detectable by current medical practices or they have no idea what
there
talking about.

If you really don't know, then send the mail and that's that. I see
people
sending some questions they should be shot for asking. Are these people
really
studying for the CCIE or studying at all? I admit, I have sent some
crappy
mails to the list asking something really simple, but then I discovered
I have
a brain, and logically a mind. If used properly, you can do amazing
things
like find answers the questions you ask...look for god sake, using your
brain
won't kill you. Ok, maybe for some of you, using your brain/mind is like
a
fighting for your life...and you know your always going to lose.

For us un-numbered dreamers, we are working towards something and I mean
really working making progress and getting better in what we know and
what we
want to know.

Asking questions about RIDS and how they effect OSPF / BGP...read the
damn
book or the web site. Don't what's not the lab? Find out by looking -
not
asking. Can't understand something? Try harder, spend some time, drink
lime
juice or something. Er...what's OSPF? and why was BGP created? how do I
configure IPSEC and why does this happen?

Maybe I need to relax and think like these people? what and be brain
dead -
think I know something when I don't even remember my name? I think
sometimes I
am stuck in game with no name. It's a shame really, I think seeing the
matrix
made me realise, maybe they were right and the matrix has forgotten to
give
some people the ability to think that they are thinking for themselves.
Remember those green letters coming down the screen? Well, for some of
you,
that was the brain you never had.

Call me what you want, say what you want...and for the few lucky few,
think
what you want. I don't know everything but I know how to help myself and
learn, think using my god given brain.

Ok, know you can delete this mail. Blame it on me being on PMT and not
spending enough time watching MTV.

At the end, I was only thinking...spent way too much time typing this
up, so I
see you when you get there...

Jennifer_bellucci@hotmail.com



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