From: Jerry (phase90@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Feb 22 2003 - 20:16:38 GMT-3
Well said Chuck - especially the part about microcert, I mean microsoft!!!
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Church <ccie8776@rochester.rr.com>
To: Aaron Woody <awoody@columbus.rr.com>; CCIE LAB <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: My Original Email...
> I agree. While the designated purpose of this list is to help people pass
> the CCIE lab, some of these off-topic discussions like the large OSPF
design
> are good. Do you just want to pass the lab, or do you want to be a highly
> knowledgeable networking professional? I prefer the latter, and I hope
most
> of you do as well. The CCIE program does NOT teach you how to design a
well
> thought-out network. Knowing how to implement BVIs and virtual links in a
5
> router network is good for the lab, but designing a production network
like
> that will have the people in TAC making fun of you. I think to become a
> CCIE, you've got to have a desire to learn as much as you can about
> networking. If you just want to learn the minimum, here's a better place
to
> get certified: www.microsoft.com . The nice part about email is it has a
> subject. If I grow tired of a thread, I'll sort by subject and delete
those
> right off the bat. Keep in mind, this list caters to many people with a
> wide range of skills and backgrounds. It's going to get off track a
little
> at times. But would I ever unsubscribe? Never!
>
> Chuck Church
> CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Woody" <awoody@columbus.rr.com>
> To: "CCIE LAB" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:35 AM
> Subject: My Original Email...
>
>
> > I believe someone else was cussing in thread...
> >
> > I think the question about the OSPF 400+ was valid. There is a gray area
> > around this design and I wanted others opinion who had actually used
OSPF
> in
> > this situation. This is a group of CCIE's and wannabes right? However,
the
> 1
> > million replies was the issue. The design questions I had were answered
> > within first 5 emails, but everyone continue to come up with answer not
> > relevant to my original criterion. If you actually read the email I sent
> it
> > indicated concerns beyond basic OSPF configuration. Also, look at the
OSPF
> > without area 0 thread...his original question was lost very quickly
> because
> > everyone wants to come up with genius answers relevant or not. I am not
so
> > bent on asking stupid questions about the lab, I am concerned with
> operation
> > of Protocols, etc. that will be in the lab. Most of this stuff can be
> > answered definitively reading a Doyle book or CCO.
> >
> > I thought you may need some clarification.
> >
> > Aaron...the guy who asked the "cluttering-up" design caveat question
about
> > OSPF hub 400+
> >
> > [GroupStudy removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had
a
> name of winmail.dat]
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