From: Logan, Harold (loganh@mccfl.edu)
Date: Thu Feb 13 2003 - 02:23:09 GMT-3
As it is, a candidate who has taken the lab twice is significantly more likely to pass than someone who is taking it for the first time. I remember almost every detail from both of my attempts so far... Cisco doesn't have to worry about reminding me of anything.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pc9101 [mailto:kieu@hn.vnn.vn]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:26 PM
> To: Richard Young; Logan, Harold
> Cc: Chuck Church; Colin Barber; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Surprising score report
>
>
> I guess that Cisco doesn't want to explain your mistake
> because it could
> help you remember almost the lab.
> Then the the lab become less challenge or they have to change
> the lab weekly
> ;-)
> Do you think so ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Young" <cc_young@pacbell.net>
> To: "Logan, Harold" <loganh@mccfl.edu>
> Cc: "Chuck Church" <ccie8776@rochester.rr.com>; "Colin Barber"
> <Colin.Barber@telewest.co.uk>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Surprising score report
>
>
> > This is a great Idea, However by purchasing a rescore you
> will only delay
> the agony of getting a final answer for 3 weeks or so, and
> you will not be
> given an answer as to what you did wrong on the lab. The
> rescore will tell
> you NOTHING about what you did wrong other than the report in the same
> format you got in your score report. They will not even tell
> you if you
> gained a few additional points. The answer wil be either yes
> you passed, or
> no
> > you did not. They will not even answer a specific question
> you ask with a
> response something like:
> >
> > We are not in a position to give you an answer. If you
> want the answer to
> your question please refer to the documentation CD.
> >
> > The official policy is not to give ANYTHING out.
> > IMHO
> >
> >
> > "Logan, Harold" wrote:
> >
> > > This is something a lot of people, incluing myself, have
> found to be
> pretty frustrating, specifically that you don't find out what
> you did wrong,
> even if you pay for a rescore. At Networkers in San Diego, Parkhurst
> addressed the issue, and his answer to it was that the CCIE
> program is a
> testing program, not a training program. I don't know about
> you guys, but to
> me it'd be worth $250, even $500 easily to find out what I
> did wrong on the
> lab.
> > >
> > > Since the labs are rotated out every thirty days, I don't
> see why they
> couldn't release this info thirty days after a lab attempt.
> Of course, I'm
> sure some schmuck somewhere would start collecting them and
> selling them or
> posting them somewhere.
> > >
> > > Ok, I'm done ranting.
> > >
> > > Hal
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chuck Church [mailto:ccie8776@rochester.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:36 AM
> > > > To: Colin Barber; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Surprising score report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not true. In my final attempt, I did something a certain way
> > > > involving a
> > > > routing protocol to meet a requirement. There was also
> > > > another way to do
> > > > it, which I realized after I'd done it my way, which worked.
> > > > I had enough
> > > > doubt in my mind about which way was better so I asked the
> > > > proctor. I told
> > > > him there were at least two ways to solve it, and I did it
> > > > this way. I was
> > > > told that they were really looking for the other way. I
> > > > asked if I'd get
> > > > the points for doing it my way. His response was 'possibly'.
> > > > I'm not much
> > > > of a gambler, so I redid it. So with 45 minutes left, I
> > > > started changing
> > > > this and watched as my IGP, EGPs, and everything on top
> of that broke.
> > > > Pretty scary. But the change worked and everything
> > > > straightened out. Had
> > > > this been the two day lab, I would have argued the next day
> > > > about doing it
> > > > my way, but with the 1 day format, you don't have that
> > > > luxury. Remember,
> > > > 'correct' in the lab is in the eyes of the proctor, not you!
> > > >
> > > > Chuck Church
> > > > CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Colin Barber" <Colin.Barber@telewest.co.uk>
> > > > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:41 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: Surprising score report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > There may be multiple ways of doing a task and there are
> > > > all correct.
> > > > There
> > > > > is no Cisco way. You just have to meet the objectives exactly
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Richard Young [mailto:cc_young@pacbell.net]
> > > > > Sent: 10 February 2003 23:03
> > > > > To: Dimitris Vassilopoulos
> > > > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Surprising score report
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I did the same.
> > > > > I recommend forgetting the rescore. The CCIE team is very
> > > > inflexible in
> > > > > their rescores in my opinion. You also will not get an
> > > > explanation as
> > > > > to why you did not get points. Remember that there
> are many ways of
> > > > > doing a task in an exam, but the only way that counts is
> > > > the Cisco way.
> > > > > It will cost you $250 and you are better off going back to
> > > > the books and
> > > > > spending the money on more rack time to prepare for
> your next test.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dimitris Vassilopoulos wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone experience a confidence of passing the
> lab right after
> > > > > > leaving the center
> > > > > > while the received score report showed a failure at
> about 50%????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If so, do you know someone who requested a re-open?
> What happened
> > > > > > afterwards?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any input is welcomed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Dimitris
> > > > > > .
> > > > > .
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