From: Sanjay W (sanjay_wc@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 31 2003 - 18:08:44 GMT-3
Congratulations!!!
In response to your last request, without a doubt it is always helpful and
very motivating to hear about someone passing. I appreciate the fact that
everyone also take the time to outline their study methods and provide hints
and advice.
Congrats again and Thanks,
-Sanjay.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Greenberg" <groupstudylist@execulink.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: CCIE #11021
> Group,
>
> Well, somehow I did it. 1st attempt in RTP, Jan 29 2003. CCIE #11021
> (9997th certified - since the 1st certification was awarded #1024), I'm
> happy I made it before #11024. The whole process, CCNA - CCIE took me
> about 3 years.
>
> Here is my philosophy on the whole matter, for what it's worth to those
> still playing the game:
>
> 1) Nothing can replace honest hard work. I didn't buy any practice
> labs, or any bootcamp sessions. I made my own practice labs, adapted
> from the Solie book. i.e., I removed IPX and token ring and inserted
> more current content. And then practice practice practice - there are
> no shortcuts or cheat sheets.
>
> 2) Don't just practice with mini-labs, do multi-protocol labs and
> fine-tune your test-taking strategy. Don't forget to develop a strategy
> - ***mine was developed using peoples suggestions from this list***.
>
> 3) The Doc CD is your friend. I read and took notes on every *relevant*
> document. You'll know you're ready when you're intimate with the docs,
> and you know how to find anything without even thinking about it.
> Memorize the locations of tables that you could use in the lab. The
> docs store much that your brain doesn't have to; this way, you can make
> room for learning dynamic content e.g. protocol mechanics.
>
> 4) Be honest with yourself - if you are scared of something, master it,
> and every related command/feature.
>
> 5) When doing practice labs, get in the habit of drawing diagrams with
> interfaces, ip addresses, ASNs, and use highlighters to mark protocol
> locations. Having the "Big Picture" is important at test time.
>
> 6) If you are prepared, you'll pass. I was only truly prepared about 1
> year after I initially thought I might have a shot - I just didn't think
> I could take the rejection of failure - so I left no room for it.
>
> 7) If you're reading this list and someone starts talking about a
> fair-game protocol that you've never heard of, you're not ready.
>
> 8) The most important one, I almost forgot. Force yourself to RELAX. I
> know it's not easy, but I had to convince myself that it was no big
> deal, just so I could stop shaking and get some sleep the night before.
> On that note, get sleep and eat well - I went to bed at 8:00 pm and woke
> up at 5:00 am every night that I was in RTP, just to get in the habit.
>
> 9) Keep using this list - it's invaluable. There is no substitute for
> the level of support with protocol intricacies and idiosyncrasies that
> can be received here.
>
> ---
> I could not have passed on my first attempt if this list did not exist,
> so - thanks.
> ---
>
> Well, let me know if you find this useful,
>
> Jay Greenberg
> A very happy CCIE #11021
> .
.
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