From: Greg Sporton (Greg.Sporton@nec.com.au)
Date: Thu Jan 16 2003 - 00:52:06 GMT-3
Hi all,
I think the below advice from Jason is just about the best I have seen so
far on studying for your CCIE lab. During my study time I must have gone
through 50 different labs I designed myself using my own equipment. A few
weeks before my first attempt some guys from work threw some routers
together and came up with their own labs for me to do.
I couldn't believe how hard I found it to adapt to a new physical layout
after months of study with my own stuff. I would guess I spent a good 40
minutes to 1 hour trying to come to terms with the new layout!! After that I
made sure I re-cabled my lab every 3 days. On the big day I walked in with
no preconception as to the layout and I feel that helped me immensely.
Regards,
Greg.
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Greg Sporton CCIE# 10048
Senior Network Engineer
NEC Business Solutions
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Sinclair [mailto:sinclairj@powertel.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2003 2:07 PM
To: 'Joe Chang'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Found a New CCIE Lab Rental
All,
I don't necessarily disagree with this debate, however there is some merit
in using an external lab at times. Regardless of the number of topologies
you use, using a differently set up lab can overcome some of the anxiety of
seeing the CCIE lab for the first time. We all are fairly familiar with the
available on-line lab setups and lab scenarios, however, unless you have sat
the lab before, you will not know what the topology is like (and even if you
have these change....).
One of the overlooked aspects of the real lab is the stress/anxiety/fear of
the unknown, etc, and I think moving out of your comfort zone by using a
before unseen lab topology can be useful.
Just some food for thought.
Regards,
Jason Sinclair CCIE #9100
Manager, Network Control Centre
POWERTEL
55 Clarence Street,
SYDNEY NSW 2000
AUSTRALIA
office: + 61 2 8264 3820
mobile: + 61 416 105 858
email: sinclairj@powertel.com.au
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Chang [mailto:changjoe@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2003 12:04
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Found a New CCIE Lab Rental
Having your own equipment and building your own lab is the best way to go if
you have the cash, no argument about that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rem" <rem@digdomsol.com>
To: "Joe Chang" <changjoe@earthlink.net>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: Found a New CCIE Lab Rental
> Just my 2 cents worth, but one of the greatest things about having your
own
> rack at home, office, etc. is being able to put the technologies together
in
> your own versions and decipher what happens. Building my own lab also got
me
> familiar with some hardware that i had yet to put together in the field
and
> see what ios versions work with what routers and switches first hand.
> Although you can rent rack time, which has its certain advantages you
never
> get to have that certain satisfaction from stringing 3 dce cables back to
> back to get a "perfect match", its the best of american ingenuity when you
> decide that you are not going to purchase anymore cables and find a
> solution.
>
> Isn't that what the IE is all about? Overcoming obstacles, sorry I took so
> long but I do love my rack!!! Sell it, hell no, you can bury me with it.
BTW
> it gets half my number if I ever make it.
>
> Ross Montejano, CCNP, CCDP, SCSA, MCSE, SCE
> Network Engineer
> Digital Domain Solutions, Inc.
> rem@digdomsol.com
> 909-245-9180
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Joe Chang
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:00 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Found a New CCIE Lab Rental
>
>
> Todd, that's true if two assumptions hold: that the secondary market for
> Cisco gear still holds up by the time you get your CCIE and your personal
> finances can do without the use of several thousand dollars until that
time.
>
> p.s. the lab rental guys are paying me lots of money to say this =)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Carswell" <acarswell@nc.rr.com>
> To: "Edward W. Boggs" <eboggs@adelphia.net>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Found a New CCIE Lab Rental
>
>
> > I checked out this site. I really don't have a problem with renting
> > rack time, but the home page starts off with a schpiel trying to
> > convince the reader that it is much more economical to rent rack time
> > than buy your own equipment (a self serving statement). They even go so
> > far as to tell you that you could possibly spend up to $25,000 for lab
> > equipment - a laughable statement, to say the least.
> >
> > In reality, it's much more economical to buy your own equipment because
> > you'll get most, if not all, of your money back when you re-sell it.
> >
> > Unless these rack rental places are planning to give users refunds after
> > they get their CCIE numbers, the math doesn't add up.
> >
> > My philosophy: Buy your own equipment and rent some rack time to do ATM
> > and Voice. It's much cheaper.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> > Edward W. Boggs wrote:
> >
> > >Was looking through the search engines and found a new CCIE Lab Rental
> with
> > >3550 EMI's.. the url is www.aadesign.net
> > >
> > >Ed
> > >.
> > .
> .
.
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