Re: question about VOFR and Frame-realy traffic shaping

From: stefan vogt (stefan-uwe_vogt@web.de)
Date: Sun Jan 12 2003 - 17:12:48 GMT-3


Hi Rick,
not sure whether you already know
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk698/technologies_tech_note09186a00800d6788.shtml
Seems that mincir is only required when using adaptive shaping - which you have to disable for voice.
-Stefan

"Rick" <ccie_2003@hotmail.com> schrieb am 12.01.03 17:34:30:
> Kym and Nate,
>
> Thanks so much.. Here is what I have now for my frame-relay traffic
> shaping.. I also added the vofr cisco command.. (duh!) I think I got turned
> around trouble-shooting when I originally could not ping because I didn't
> have FR traffic-shaping fully implemented.
> Here is my traffic shaping config. What do you think? Is this correct?
> map-class frame-relay voice
> frame-relay cir 128000
> frame-relay bc 16000
> frame-relay mincir 64000
> no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
> frame-relay fair-queue
> frame-relay voice bandwidth 12000
> frame-relay fragment 120
>
> Also I did a show frame-relay pvc 100 to look at my traffic shaping
> paramters and I don't understand why pings want work with only frame-relay
> voice bandwidth 12000 becasue it defaults to some parameters as you can see
> below.
>
>
> !!!!!!!with only frame-relay voice bandwidth 12000
> !!!!!!!There was nothing set up for Data nor could ex. I could not ping
> !
> DLCI = 100, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE = Serial0/0.1
>
> input pkts 1675 output pkts 1781 in bytes 54558
> out bytes 61255 dropped pkts 0 in FECN pkts 0
> in BECN pkts 0 out FECN pkts 0 out BECN pkts 0
> in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
> out bcast pkts 11 out bcast bytes 3135
> pvc create time 00:08:13, last time pvc status changed 00:07:04
> Service type VoFR-cisco
> cir 56000 bc 7000 be 0 byte limit 875 interval 125
> mincir 28000 byte increment 875 Adaptive Shaping none
> pkts 1781 bytes 61261 pkts delayed 2 bytes delayed 576
> shaping inactive
> traffic shaping drops 0
> Queueing strategy: fifo
> Output queue 0/40, 0 drop, 0 dequeued
> configured voice bandwidth 12000, used voice bandwidth 0
> !
> !!!!!!!!After implementing frame-relay traffic shapping fully
> !
> r6#sh frame-relay pvc 100
>
> PVC Statistics for interface Serial0/0 (Frame Relay DTE)
>
> DLCI = 100, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE = Serial0/0.1
>
> input pkts 1992 output pkts 2060 in bytes 65919
> out bytes 71440 dropped pkts 0 in FECN pkts 0
> in BECN pkts 0 out FECN pkts 0 out BECN pkts 0
> in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
> out bcast pkts 25 out bcast bytes 7125
> pvc create time 00:23:02, last time pvc status changed 00:21:52
> Service type VoFR-cisco
> Queueing strategy: weighted fair
> Voice Queueing Stats: 0/0 (size/dropped)
> Current fair queue configuration:
> Discard Dynamic Reserved
> threshold queue count queue count
> 64 16 0
> Output queue size 0/max total 600/drops 0
> configured voice bandwidth 12000, used voice bandwidth 0
> fragment type VoFR-cisco fragment size 120
> cir 128000 bc 16000 be 0 limit 2000 interval 125
> mincir 64000 byte increment 2000 BECN response no
> frags 2070 bytes 71526 frags delayed 22 bytes delayed 2601
> shaping inactive
> traffic shaping drops 0
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kym blair" <kymblair@hotmail.com>
> To: <nchessin@cisco.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <ccie_2003@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 1:12 AM
> Subject: RE: question about VOFR
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> > Nate's right ... you need "vofr cisco" on both routers. I think you'll
> also need smaller fragments than 1500 so your data has a chance of getting
> through. Here's what I'd suggest(below). You're wise to study this before
> NMC1; you'll be ready to absorb the details of their lesson on this.
> >
> > If this doesn't work, cut your CIR and MINCIR down to realistic
> frame-relay sizes (128K/64K or smaller if you have other DLCIs which would
> also like some bandwidth). For voice bandwidth, I think you need at least
> 10K (better 12K) per call; if you want two calls, then at leaset 24K. Your
> 78K may exceed the capability of the link.
> >
> > >Host r6
> > >interface Serial0/0
> > > no ip address
> > > encapsulation frame-relay
> > > clockrate 2000000
> > > frame-relay traffic-shaping
> > >!
> > >interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
> > > ip address 150.150.10.1 255.255.255.0
> > > frame-relay interface-dlci 100
> > > class voice
> > vofr cisco <-----------
> > >!
> > >map-class frame-relay voice
> > > frame-relay cir 768000
> > > frame-relay bc 1000
> > > frame-relay mincir 120000
> > > no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
> > > frame-relay fair-queue
> > > frame-relay voice bandwidth 78000
> > > frame-relay fragment 120 <---- smaller fragments
> > >!
> > >!
> > >voice-port 1/0/0
> > >!
> > >voice-port 1/0/1
> > >!
> > >dial-peer cor custom
> > >!
> > >!
> > >!
> > >dial-peer voice 1 pots
> > > destination-pattern 1111
> > > port 1/0/0
> > >!
> > >dial-peer voice 2 vofr
> > > destination-pattern 2222
> > > session target Serial0/0 100
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >Host r11
> > >interface Serial0/0
> > > no ip address
> > > encapsulation frame-relay
> > > frame-relay traffic-shaping
> > > frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> > >!
> > >interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
> > > ip address 150.150.10.2 255.255.255.0
> > > frame-relay interface-dlci 200
> > > class voice
> > vofr cisco <--------------------------
> > >!
> > >!
> > >map-class frame-relay voice
> > > frame-relay cir 768000
> > > frame-relay bc 1000
> > > frame-relay mincir 120000
> > > no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
> > > frame-relay fair-queue
> > > frame-relay voice bandwidth 78000
> > > frame-relay fragment 120 <------- smaller
> > >!
> > >!
> > >voice-port 1/0/0
> > >!
> > >voice-port 1/0/1
> > >!
> > >dial-peer cor custom
> > >!
> > >!
> > >!
> > >dial-peer voice 1 pots
> > > destination-pattern 2222
> > > port 1/0/0
> > >!
> > >dial-peer voice 2 vofr
> > > destination-pattern 1111
> > > session target Serial0/0 200
> > >!
> > >!
> > >!
> > >QUESIONS: about these commands, which one are nessary? I guess I still
> don't
> > >no understand the Bc, etc
> > >map-class frame-relay voice
> > >frame-relay cir 768000
> > >frame-relay bc 1000
> > >frame-relay mincir 120000
> > >no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
> > >frame-relay fair-queue
> > > frame-relay voice bandwidth 78000
> > > frame-relay fragment 1500
> >
> >
> > I'm not good with the different values in FRTS. Here's as I understand,
> but others have posted excellent discussions; if you have time, research the
> archives. MINCIR is what you've purchased (will never have DE bit set).
> CIR is max for the link (don't exceed remote end capability if it is smaller
> than local end); probably twice the size of MINCIR. BC is 1/8 of CIR. You
> correctly turned on global traffic-shaping and then turned off
> adaptive-shaping in the map-class since you are not interested in FECN/BECN
> throttling for voice traffic. Fragments causes larger packets to be split
> into smaller packets so voice can get time-slots more frequently, and so
> there are slots availabe for data packets. Your data packets (e.g., ping
> tests) won't go through if you forget to fragment, and they may not go
> through if you make the size so large. I think you wouldn't have to
> fragment if the link is T1 or larger.
> >
> > HTH, Kym
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Nathan Chessin" <nchessin@cisco.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Nathan Chessin" <nchessin@cisco.com>
> > >To: "'Rick'" <ccie_2003@hotmail.com>, "'kym blair'"
> <kymblair@hotmail.com>
> > >CC: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >Subject: RE: question about VOFR
> > >Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:20:55 -0800
> > >
> > >what about the "vofr cisco" command under the interface-dlci command?
> > >
> > >Nate
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > Rick
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 6:40 PM
> > > > To: kym blair
> > > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: question about VOFR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kym, or any other VOFR gurus,
> > > >
> > > > Of the below list frame-relay commands. Which one are needed
> > > > to pass data and
> > > > voice... I tried to use only frame-relay voice bandwidth
> > > > 7800, and of course I
> > > > could not ping, but I couldn't call the other phone either..
> > > > I found these
> > > > commands on the CCO and I can ping, but I still can call
> > > > between routers. I
> > > > will attach the configs below.
> > > > What I'm I doing wrong.. I trying to cram as much as possible
> > > > before I go to
> > > > Netmaster NMC-1 at the end of the month... I want to have all
> > > > the basics down
> > > > so I can walk away with the advanced topics...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > > > !There are only two routers and a frame switch
> > > >
> > > > Host r6
> > > > interface Serial0/0
> > > > no ip address
> > > > encapsulation frame-relay
> > > > clockrate 2000000
> > > > frame-relay traffic-shaping
> > > > !
> > > > interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
> > > > ip address 150.150.10.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > frame-relay interface-dlci 100
> > > > class voice
> > > > !
> > > > map-class frame-relay voice
> > > > frame-relay cir 768000
> > > > frame-relay bc 1000
> > > > frame-relay mincir 120000
> > > > no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
> > > > frame-relay fair-queue
> > > > frame-relay voice bandwidth 78000
> > > > frame-relay fragment 1500
> > > > !
> > > > !
> > > > voice-port 1/0/0
> > > > !
> > > > voice-port 1/0/1
> > > > !
> > > > dial-peer cor custom
> > > > !
> > > > !
> > > > !
> > > > dial-peer voice 1 pots
> > > > destination-pattern 1111
> > > > port 1/0/0
> > > > !
> > > > dial-peer voice 2 vofr
> > > > destination-pattern 2222
> > > > session target Serial0/0 100
> > > >
> > > > Host r11
> > > > interface Serial0/0
> > > > no ip address
> > > > encapsulation frame-relay
> > > > frame-relay traffic-shaping
> > > > frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> > > > !
> > > > interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
> > > > ip address 150.150.10.2 255.255.255.0
> > > > frame-relay interface-dlci 200
> > > > class voice
> > > > !
> > > > !
> > > > map-class frame-relay voice
> > > > frame-relay cir 768000
> > > > frame-relay bc 1000
> > > > frame-relay mincir 120000
> > > > no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
> > > > frame-relay fair-queue
> > > > frame-relay voice bandwidth 78000
> > > > frame-relay fragment 1500
> > > > !
> > > > !
> > > > voice-port 1/0/0
> > > > !
> > > > voice-port 1/0/1
> > > > !
> > > > dial-peer cor custom
> > > > !
> > > > !
> > > > !
> > > > dial-peer voice 1 pots
> > > > destination-pattern 2222
> > > > port 1/0/0
> > > > !
> > > > dial-peer voice 2 vofr
> > > > destination-pattern 1111
> > > > session target Serial0/0 200
> > > > !
> > > > !
> > > > !
> > > > QUESIONS: about these commands, which one are nessary? I
> > > > guess I still don't
> > > > no understand the Bc, etc
> > > > map-class frame-relay voice
> > > > frame-relay cir 768000
> > > > frame-relay bc 1000
> > > > frame-relay mincir 120000
> > > > no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
> > > > frame-relay fair-queue
> > > > frame-relay voice bandwidth 78000
> > > > frame-relay fragment 1500
> > > > .
> > >.
> .



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