RE: Could break NDA I think? Its a bit long and might confuse

From: Logan, Harold (loganh@mccfl.edu)
Date: Fri Jan 03 2003 - 14:08:36 GMT-3


This is a case where you have to know your enemy. Looking at the lab from cisco's point of view, it would be impossible to set up a pod to use every single feature in the ios. If the time constraint wouldn't get you, the eventual lack of NVRAM necessary to hold the monster configs would. The approach they would need to take to write CCIE labs that cover all the bases would need to be similar to the adaptive testing approach microsoft took with the old NT4 exams. If a candidate knows how to perform several tasks in a given category (say OSPF), then he or she knows (or can figure out) how to perform most of the other tasks that cisco wants their CCIEs to be capable of. So in the category of OSPF, they could require a candidate to configure all of the things you've seen in your paractice labs (and some that you haven't) but it'd take all day just for the ospf config. Odds are, if you can set up md5 authentication in an NSSA then you can probably also set up plain text authentica!
tion in a stubby area. FYI, these are random tasks, not stuff from my lab attempt. But the same applies to the other core areas... yes, you'll probably have to configure BGP and DLSW (hope that isn't an NDA violation) but I don't think anyone could configure every single BGP or DLSW option available in under 8 hours.

The best advice I can offer is to practice looking stuff up in the doc CD, especially some of the more obscure tasks from the ccbootcamp labs. Things like setting the connection refused message when someone tries to telnet into the router, changing the character at the router prompt, and other little stuff can take a long time to look up if you're not familiar with the documentation. You should plan on having to look a few things up, so the less time you spend doing it, the better. If you make it through the lab without having to look anything up, then your kung fu is way better than mine.

Hal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Bellucci [mailto:Jennifer_bellucci@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:20 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Could break NDA I think? Its a bit long and might confuse
> you...
>
>
> Hi
>
> [Please do not respond to this question if you think it
> violates the NDA.]
>
> I have been reading the posts for awhile know and got one
> question I need to
> ask to all IE's.
>
> I know a potential IE candidate should try and learn as much
> as she/he can. I
> agree and have been using that rule in my studies but I was
> wondering, when
> you have sat the lab (1-day only) have you been tested on
> everything (and I
> mean almost everything in the IOS) on the lab or knowing
> about the other
> technologies/methods made things more simple on how you
> approach the task?
> While going through ccbootcamp and ipexpert labs, I have
> noticed that there is
> not one lab I have come across that tries to nail everything in sight.
> Ccbootcamp labs are by far the best testers I have come
> across when it comes
> to routing and have recently introduced 3550 stuff.
> Ccbootcamp's lab 8 is
> pretty good when it comes down to OSPF/BGP, red and few other things.
> Lab 22 is also lab I liked, 25/26...I ran through those in 2
> hours - just what
> you need every morning.
> Ipexpert's lab 30-35 are nice testers and give you a good
> hammering when it
> comes to all the so called fringe topics and gives you a
> different approach
> when it comes to configuring things.
>
> Getting back to my question, if you have access to any of
> these products you
> will notice there is no single lab that kills almost every
> subject. So, I am
> guessing that the lab does not actually test you on "every"
> subject. That does
> not mean there are subjects that will not appear its just
> that knowing the
> most of the potential topics will help you. I could be wrong
> and they crucify
> you on every imaginable topic.
>
> Hopefully, I think you might have understood my question and
> will be able to
> give me a good answer. (No abusive replies please)
>
> Thanks
>
> Jennifer Bellucci
>
> Jennifer_bellucci@hotmail.com
> .
.



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