From: LoizosCisco (david_steven2001@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Jan 03 2003 - 22:51:21 GMT-3
You are talking about a $50 book which can be resold
as many time as you want. Workbooks are over $500.
Let's end this right here.
--- Chris Home <clarson52@comcast.net> wrote:
> I just check my BCRAN, Installation and Maintanence,
> CIT and old ACRC and
> ICRC books from global knowledge and my recent ONS
> 15454 book and no, none
> of them say anything like that. They are not
> licensed they are sold with the
> course.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LoizosCisco" <david_steven2001@yahoo.com>
> To: "Pratt, Jeremy" <JPratt@coh.org>; "'Chris Home'"
> <clarson52@comcast.net>; "IPexpert, Inc."
> <groupstudy@ipexpert.net>;
> <Sam.MicroGate@usa.telekom.de>
> Cc: <Ciscomonkey@aol.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>;
> <admin@groupstudy.com>;
> <webmaster@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:56 PM
> Subject: RE: deleted from group
>
>
> > ANY professional workbook you buy it always states
> in
> > the agreement something like this:
> >
> > "The training Materials shall be used by only ONE
> (1)
> > INDIVIDUAL who shall be the sole individual
> authorized
> > to use the Training Material throughout the term
> of
> > this License"
> >
> > If you can find any Cisco workbook publisher that
> does
> > not state so then please let me know.
> >
> > People that are already using IPexp they know how
> > professional they are. They invested a lot of time
> and
> > money to put together such a solid and incredible
> > product and I do not think is right for some
> people to
> > violate their rights which are the same as
> everyone
> > else rights.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Pratt, Jeremy" <JPratt@coh.org> wrote:
> > > Good point. I am waiting on IPexpert's response
> as
> > > to whether I purchase
> > > their program. I have enough Microsucks licenses
> to
> > > deal with without having
> > > to deal with this as well.
> > >
> > > Jeremy Pratt
> > > Network Manager
> > > CCNP, CCDP, CCSA, CCSE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Home [mailto:clarson52@comcast.net]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 4:06 PM
> > > To: IPexpert, Inc.; Sam.MicroGate@usa.telekom.de
> > > Cc: Ciscomonkey@aol.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> > > admin@groupstudy.com;
> > > webmaster@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: deleted from group
> > >
> > >
> > > Let me get this straight. You license your book
> to
> > > people? Not sell it? If
> > > you sold it then why can't a person review the
> > > material with a study
> > > partner? Is the forum part of the sale?
> > >
> > > If so, how can you kick someone out of your
> forum
> > > that they paid for simply
> > > because they are sharing a book they bought with
> > > someone else? If I buy a
> > > book I can do whatever I want with it short of
> > > copying it and redistributing
> > > it. If that is what the guy did (copy and
> > > distribute) shame on him. But if
> > > you are trying to exclude him from a forum that
> was
> > > part of the sale on
> > > something that is only copyrighted shame on
> you!!!
> > > He has every right to
> > > share it, it is his, and I would be asking for a
> > > full refund for buying
> > > something that included a forum that you won't
> let a
> > > person participate in.
> > > If you sold the forum with the book you are
> > > obligated to provide it to him!!
> > >
> > > All this stuff about "well so and so has got to
> make
> > > money" is bull if it
> > > falls outside the law. So I would again
> question,
> > > did you license your book
> > > to him or sell it and is the forum part of the
> sale?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "IPexpert, Inc." <groupstudy@ipexpert.net>
> > > To: <Sam.MicroGate@usa.telekom.de>
> > > Cc: <Ciscomonkey@aol.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>;
> > > <admin@groupstudy.com>;
> > > <webmaster@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 5:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: deleted from group
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sorry to bother you all with this, but I was
> > > asked to clarify this
> > > > situation. The user "ciscomonkey" was deleted
> > > from IPexpert's online
> > > > technical support and download forum after
> they
> > > admitted to violating our
> > > > licensing agreement. We have no control or
> say
> > > over what Paul does on
> > > > groupstudy.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks! - Wayne
> > > >
> > > > Sam.MicroGate@usa.telekom.de writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Does IPExpert own this group or mail server?
> If
> > > yes, I did not know
> > > that.
> > > > > Also I do not think that IPExpert would do
> that.
> > > But you never know the
> > > real
> > > > > story. Any way, I have no time for this. I
> got
> > > to go back to study.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Sam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ciscomonkey@aol.com
> > > [mailto:Ciscomonkey@aol.com]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:37 PM
> > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> > > admin@groupstudy.com;
> > > webmaster@groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: deleted from group
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to let everyone know that I got
> deleted
> > > by IP Expert from this
> > > group
> > > > > because I told them I had a study partner
> and we
> > > were sharing their
> > > book. I
> > > > > have since received harassing emails from
> them
> > > as well.
> > > > > .
> > > > .
> > > .
> > >
> >
>
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