From: tubb randy (tubbr@bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed Sep 18 2002 - 00:51:45 GMT-3
I decided to study the CCIE when I was interviewing for an engineering
position. I was mad as hell when some computer geek with little education
made more than me after studying four years in engineering. I expected to
receive the CCIE within a year, if I didn't pass I would finish my
engineering degree. I have been studying three years now and I don't know
when I will be ready for the lab. I have earned a deep respect for CCIEs
----- Original Message -----
From: "rich" <rich@pixguru.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:04 PM
Subject: MS-CCIE
> A couple of years ago, at the height of the dot com era, a CCIE in my area
> could easily pull in 150k. Did I start down this road for the money?
Hell
> yes. I already had field experience, a good job, seniority, respect, and
all
> that stuff that makes work fun. Besides, CCIE would be a challenge. But
a
> LOT has changed in the past couple of years. Bad economy. Fewer jobs.
> Lowered salaries. And apparently a butt load of CCIE's! I mean wow! And
to
> hear that many of them are just lab ccie's really brings the 8000+ CCIE's
into
> a different light. It brings my own efforts into the same light. It
reminds
> me of what happened to Novell certifications... I had just gotten my CNE
when
> I heard the term 'paper CNE' about a guy at the same company who carried
cue
> cards around to customers with commands written on them.
>
> I haven't gotten my ccie yet but I'm hoping to. My chances would probably
be
> greatly enhanced by going to a boot-camp, but I feel that would just add
to
> the problem. Maybe limiting the number of active CCIE's in a country
would
> keep the certification from getting too bloated. Or maybe just stop the
> certification process now or at a fixed number. Or better yet, allow no
more
> than 1000 a year (total) to be certified. Candidate selection process
could
> be a weighted drawing (increased chances every year).
>
> I'm not trying to criticize anyone's efforts, but rather express the
results
> of those efforts. It's kind of liking moving into a new, quiet, expensive
> neighborhood. It's great until everyone else moves in, and suddenly that
> expensive house isn't worth what you paid for it.
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