From: Tony Huang (thuang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Aug 15 2002 - 04:13:18 GMT-3
David,
My suggestion is to go to Cisco website and find out its partners' websites
where you will find some positions available and you can send your
enquiries. Personal networking is another direct approach to get a job.
I found my job on newspaper after a lot of unsuccessful applications
returned by recruiters.
I am looking for a job too, but can not find any.
Good luck.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: David Ham [mailto:ccieau@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2002 4:26 PM
To: carl.newman@elynxtech.com; dizzy74_98@yahoo.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: OT: Current salaries and recruiters w/attitudes
Myself as a CCIE, I am looking for a contract position in Australia Sydney
area.
Things are very bad, and recruiters say the rate is around $50-60 an hour
for 3 months contact. They also said it is lucky to get a position.
Is this true ?? I am very depressed by this after 3 years of the hard work
just to get CCIE not metioning over 7 years of experiences.
I guess it is better to go with personal networks( personal contacts ) to
get a position rather than using recruiters.
Any comment and Anyone knows any position available in Sydney??
Regards,
David Ham
>From: carl.newman@elynxtech.com
>Reply-To: carl.newman@elynxtech.com
>To: dizzy74_98@yahoo.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: OT: Current salaries and recruiters w/attitudes
>Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:11:39 -0500
>
>Scott:
>
>Recruiters are like used car salesmen. Would you believe anything a used
>car salesmen told you?
>
>Blow this guy off, just be nice about it.
>
>Carl
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: watsonf@verizon.net [mailto:watsonf@verizon.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:32 PM
>To: Scott Hoover; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Re: OT: Current salaries and recruiters w/attitudes
>
>Scott,
>
>Get another recruiter. When I first got out of college I went to a
>recruiter
>to feel out the job opportunities. He basically told me I was less than
>nothing and would have to pay my dues for years. I went out and got a job
>at
>double what he said I should hope for.
>
>Yes things are bad, but not as bad as this recruiter is.
>
>kealii
> >
> > From: Scott Hoover <dizzy74_98@yahoo.com>
> > Date: 2002/08/14 Wed AM 05:56:55 HST
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: OT: Current salaries and recruiters w/attitudes
> >
> > I just had a recruiter tell me that as a CCIE (with a
> > little over 3 years of experience), I should be happy
> > to take a
> > job for $60k in the Dallas area. Now I know things
> > aren't great right now,
> > but this seems a little extreme. Has it really come
> > to cutting our salaries in half and putting up with
> > serious attitudes from recruiters? She basically
> > chewed me out because I was
> > "not serious" about my job search. I found her
> > attitude extremely
> > unprofessional and I am honestly shocked at her
> > demeanor. Just to make sure I'm not way off base
> > here, can anybody tell
> > me if this is really where things are right now, or
> > was this just a bad
> > apple?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Scott
> > CCIE #9340
> >
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