From: Jim Brown (Jim.Brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Jul 16 2002 - 14:30:03 GMT-3
With that said.... I would place a bet that no matter how much money you
have, it would be near impossible to acquire an address space that size
without being able to justify usage.
Does he realize he is requesting 1.3 million precious public addresses?
According to ARIN's price schedule it would be over $20K for the initial
subscription and over $20K per year thereafter, if you could convince them
to give you addresses.
ARIN or whomever wants more than money to had out addresses and the total
address space mentioned in the post below is huge.
Even if you could justify a device for the majority of the IP's requested
you would then need to justify why you couldn't use NAT before they would
consider handing out addresses.
It isn't easy to pull 20 public class B sized address spaces.
Directly from the ARIN requirements page
http://www.arin.net/library/guidelines/end_user.html
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Requirements for Requesting Address Space
Utilization rate of address space is a key factor in justifying a new
assignment of IP address space. Requestors must show exactly how previous
address assignments have been utilized and must provide appropriate details
to verify their one-year growth projection. The basic criteria that must be
met are:
A 25% immediate utilization rate, and
A 50% utilization rate within one year.
A greater utilization rate may be required based on individual network
requirements. Please refer to RFC 2050 for more information on utilization
guidelines.
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Does this manager have 650K devices attached to his network and $40K+ to
burn? NAT may be a bit more financially sound decision.
-----Original Message-----
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:JA_WRIGHT@admworld.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:51 AM
To: 'Jim Brown'; Wright, Jeremy; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: RE: price of ip's
i have always been good about being nice in explaining unusual requests or
logic behind some schemes. this manager made a point to send an email to
myself and my group (including my supervisor) about how easy it would be to
apply 20 /16's compared to 1 /24 and NAT and make a point that I was way
wrong and too complicated. He has no network knowledge at all. It was
completely unnecessary and his mannerism about the situation was way out of
line. I have been given a green light from management to respond explaining
why his design would be wrong and the cost of what he recommended. i
shouldnt say i am going to rub it in but i will make a point (in good
mannerism) that his suggestion is wrong. thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Brown [mailto:Jim.Brown@caselogic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:35 AM
To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: RE: price of ip's
How about enlighten, not rub. :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:JA_WRIGHT@admworld.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:34 AM
To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: OT: price of ip's
I'm arguing with one of my remote sites managers because he is claiming that
he needs 20 /16 addresses. Thats right...20 /16's. He has no concept of
subnetting or routing. I dont have a clue how much 20 /16's would cost in
the real world. I'm thinking it would be impossible to obtain 20 /16's. I
just wanted to see if someone would have a guesstimate on the price of that
many ranges (millions?). dont worry...he's not getting more than 254
addresses and NAT. i just want to rub it in his face how the real world
would react.
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Jeremy Wright
Network Analyst
Archer Daniels Midland
ja_wright@admworld.com
(217)451-4063
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