From: bobdu11@xxxxxxx
Date: Wed Jun 26 2002 - 09:41:24 GMT-3
Dave, why are you on this list if you feel that way ? Just wondering as this i
s a CCIELAB list and if you feel so strongly against the program, why are you h
ere ? I know if I didn't like the program I wouldn't be plugging through all th
ese E-mails for the heck of it....Bob
>
> From: "DAve Diaz" <ddiaz106@hotmail.com>
> Date: 2002/06/26 Wed AM 06:55:35 EDT
> To: msnyder@ldd.net, RichardK@knowledgenet.com
> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Life to too short. (was RE: My lab experience)
>
> ccie means jack today I did an interview of four of them and ended up
> recommending a non-ccie becasue of his experience and troubleshooting skils,
> sadly ccie does not tell you the level of exp. or T/S skills someone has, ,
> ccie is only a benchmark and ambition for those ready to put oup with
> cisco's crap and obscure questions,
>
> Who needs to configure rip/igrp or ipx these days whn cisco's cd practically
> tells you how, many ,many get by ccie lab and have no idea, sorrry pissed
> off after seeing such poor technical experince and knowledge from 4 ccie;s
> what a joke, ccie's are book learner's,
>
>
> >From: "Michael Snyder" <msnyder@ldd.net>
> >Reply-To: "Michael Snyder" <msnyder@ldd.net>
> >To: "'Richard Kleimon'" <RichardK@knowledgenet.com>
> >CC: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: Life to too short. (was RE: My lab experience)
> >Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:01:58 -0500
> >
> >From a message posted by Richard Kleimon.
> >
> >"This list is for information and to help people. If you are going to do
> >that then stay the hell off!"
> >
> >Yo Bro, we are a virtual community.
> >
> >How could you be on the list for a year and not realize that that you
> >have to take the good postings with the bad postings?
> >
> >In many ways, this study list is like having a thousand people in a one
> >room school house. I believe even with all those excess broadcasts, we
> >are doing something that has never been done before, in the history of
> >the world.
> >
> >Think of years of experience that can be drawn from, at any one time.
> >You think clustering computers is neat? Our community has terraflops on
> >top of terraflops of some of the best thinkers in our field.
> >
> >I don't know the number of active members at any one time, nor the
> >number of countries of those members, or the number of people who will
> >read these messages in the future. But I do know we are world wide, and
> >nearly in realtime.
> >
> >When it seems like (to use your words), everyone is chiming in. You are
> >right. We are chiming in. How could you be part of a community without
> >people talking about issues that impact our group, and/or some talking
> >in general. Thought my mailbox might wish otherwise.
> >
> >Talking about the limits of the NDA, is something I think is very
> >normal.
> >
> >It's limits are important, and also, hair splitting is required in our
> >field. The same critical thinking that allows us to understand a
> >complex OSPF design, also requires asking critical questions of most
> >things. To explore our limits the same way another community would
> >explore the hills and valleys around it's home.
> >
> >One of the fun things about talking about nda issues, is that you can
> >break it by talking about it. Reminds me of the FCC rule about the seven
> >words you can't say on radio. Good circle logic.
> >
> >Anyway, in short.
> >
> >
> >Yes, please post messages that are within the scope of study.
> >
> >But, also remember that we are human, and also that your great, great,
> >grand daughter may be reading your posted messages in 2160.
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