From: DAve Diaz (ddiaz106@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Jun 26 2002 - 07:55:35 GMT-3
ccie means jack today I did an interview of four of them and ended up
recommending a non-ccie becasue of his experience and troubleshooting skils,
sadly ccie does not tell you the level of exp. or T/S skills someone has, ,
ccie is only a benchmark and ambition for those ready to put oup with
cisco's crap and obscure questions,
Who needs to configure rip/igrp or ipx these days whn cisco's cd practically
tells you how, many ,many get by ccie lab and have no idea, sorrry pissed
off after seeing such poor technical experince and knowledge from 4 ccie;s
what a joke, ccie's are book learner's,
>From: "Michael Snyder" <msnyder@ldd.net>
>Reply-To: "Michael Snyder" <msnyder@ldd.net>
>To: "'Richard Kleimon'" <RichardK@knowledgenet.com>
>CC: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: Life to too short. (was RE: My lab experience)
>Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:01:58 -0500
>
>From a message posted by Richard Kleimon.
>
>"This list is for information and to help people. If you are going to do
>that then stay the hell off!"
>
>Yo Bro, we are a virtual community.
>
>How could you be on the list for a year and not realize that that you
>have to take the good postings with the bad postings?
>
>In many ways, this study list is like having a thousand people in a one
>room school house. I believe even with all those excess broadcasts, we
>are doing something that has never been done before, in the history of
>the world.
>
>Think of years of experience that can be drawn from, at any one time.
>You think clustering computers is neat? Our community has terraflops on
>top of terraflops of some of the best thinkers in our field.
>
>I don't know the number of active members at any one time, nor the
>number of countries of those members, or the number of people who will
>read these messages in the future. But I do know we are world wide, and
>nearly in realtime.
>
>When it seems like (to use your words), everyone is chiming in. You are
>right. We are chiming in. How could you be part of a community without
>people talking about issues that impact our group, and/or some talking
>in general. Thought my mailbox might wish otherwise.
>
>Talking about the limits of the NDA, is something I think is very
>normal.
>
>It's limits are important, and also, hair splitting is required in our
>field. The same critical thinking that allows us to understand a
>complex OSPF design, also requires asking critical questions of most
>things. To explore our limits the same way another community would
>explore the hills and valleys around it's home.
>
>One of the fun things about talking about nda issues, is that you can
>break it by talking about it. Reminds me of the FCC rule about the seven
>words you can't say on radio. Good circle logic.
>
>Anyway, in short.
>
>
>Yes, please post messages that are within the scope of study.
>
>But, also remember that we are human, and also that your great, great,
>grand daughter may be reading your posted messages in 2160.
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