From: Michael Snyder (msnyder@xxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Jun 25 2002 - 21:15:33 GMT-3
Hi David,
I'll take the other side of this, thought I don't care either way.
It's 'your' score report.
It's this like the IRS telling you not to share your tax return?
Going the other direction, isn't the fact you passed a function of your
score. Therefore every time you post your number, aren't you are
reporting you had a high score?
But if that part of the report is ok to share, well? And the other
parts? Which ones?
Anyway, good to see your post.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
David Wolsefer
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:25 AM
To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: RE: My lab experience
There is no question about it. This is a black and white violation. Here
is
the test from my score report:
************************************************************************
****
THIS SCORE REPORT SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED, IT IS INTENDED FOR
INFORMATIONAL
PURPOSES ONLY BY THE CANDIDATE, AND IT IS A NDA VIOLATION TO SHARE IT.
************************************************************************
****
Regards,
David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858
-----Original Message-----
From: chris@pacinter.net [mailto:chris@pacinter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:56 AM
To: McCallum, Robert; 'Paul'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: My lab experience
How is discussing your score report a violation? As long as you don't
cover
any portion of the test you are still in good standing. If I tell
someone I
scored 8% on BGP how is that violating the NDA!? It isn't, it is only
telling someone how poorly I did on a particular section. A violation of
the
NDA would be releasing any information related to the exam itself. If he
was
to ask a question that was specifically on his lab, then that would be a
violation, simply sharing percentages is not!
-c
----- Original Message -----
From: "McCallum, Robert" <Robert.McCallum@let-it-be-thus.com>
To: "'Paul'" <sixfooter777@btopenworld.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: My lab experience
> You do know that discussing your score report in anyway is a violation
of
the NDA !!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul [mailto:sixfooter777@btopenworld.com]
> Sent: 25 June 2002 15:53
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: My lab experience
>
>
> I took my lab yesterday in Brussels. It was my first go and
unfortunately
I
> didn't make it thru. However I think it's a good thing for hopefully
some
of
> you who are awaiting you lab date and also myself to say a few words
about
> the lab itself.
>
> Like other posts I have read, the lab is very much doable and yes time
is
a
> factor but not as much as you might think. I personally had a couple
of
> hours spare to revisit a few things and find a few more mistakes I had
made.
>
> The test itself is more about not what they ask you to do but what
they
> don't ask you to do and apparently as long as you don't do something
they
> forbid you to do and it works then that's fine.
>
> The proctor I had in Brussels was a good guy and had a good attitude
which
> was "there's your booklet, get on with it" and they left you alone
which
was
> fine.
>
> Now my whinge. The scoring on the exam is in points and there are
sections.
> The results you get for each section are in percentages. OK, you can
roughly
> convert points into percentages but to me, the whole marking system is
a
big
> grey area and one that Cisco really need to address. On the 2-day lab
I
> would have had some idea on where I would have gone wrong. Now, I am
totally
> in the dark. For example, I thought I'd got the Dial section 100 per
cent
> but I get 60 per cent. Why ? I will never know. Show me any book or
> experiences that will help me here. It seems that another factor in
the
lab
> exam is insider knowledge and that is wrong. With the majority of
candidates
> I suspect financing their lab exam privately and without the help of
> expensive training sources ( just by private lab practice ), many of
us
are
> at a disservice.
>
> I hate to say it but it seems the CCIE is more about who you know than
what
> you know and that's why I won't probably continue on this path because
I
> don't have deep pockets but for all of you that aspire, good luck.
>
> Paul.
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