From: Richard Kleimon (RichardK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Jun 25 2002 - 15:32:07 GMT-3
Thank you! It is nice to see that not everyone out there has their head up
their a@#. I am sick of seeing all these up tight people chime in when it
has nothing to do with the NDA. If you think someone typed something they
shouldn't have delete it and get over yourself.
If you aren't the one typing shut up!
I have been on the list for about a year and I have seen thousands of emails
come though. This list is for information and to help people. If you are
going to do that then stay the hell off!
-----Original Message-----
From: chris@pacinter.net [mailto:chris@pacinter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 8:56 AM
To: McCallum, Robert; 'Paul'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: My lab experience
How is discussing your score report a violation? As long as you don't cover
any portion of the test you are still in good standing. If I tell someone I
scored 8% on BGP how is that violating the NDA!? It isn't, it is only
telling someone how poorly I did on a particular section. A violation of the
NDA would be releasing any information related to the exam itself. If he was
to ask a question that was specifically on his lab, then that would be a
violation, simply sharing percentages is not!
-c
----- Original Message -----
From: "McCallum, Robert" <Robert.McCallum@let-it-be-thus.com>
To: "'Paul'" <sixfooter777@btopenworld.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: My lab experience
> You do know that discussing your score report in anyway is a violation of
the NDA !!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul [mailto:sixfooter777@btopenworld.com]
> Sent: 25 June 2002 15:53
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: My lab experience
>
>
> I took my lab yesterday in Brussels. It was my first go and unfortunately
I
> didn't make it thru. However I think it's a good thing for hopefully some
of
> you who are awaiting you lab date and also myself to say a few words about
> the lab itself.
>
> Like other posts I have read, the lab is very much doable and yes time is
a
> factor but not as much as you might think. I personally had a couple of
> hours spare to revisit a few things and find a few more mistakes I had
made.
>
> The test itself is more about not what they ask you to do but what they
> don't ask you to do and apparently as long as you don't do something they
> forbid you to do and it works then that's fine.
>
> The proctor I had in Brussels was a good guy and had a good attitude which
> was "there's your booklet, get on with it" and they left you alone which
was
> fine.
>
> Now my whinge. The scoring on the exam is in points and there are
sections.
> The results you get for each section are in percentages. OK, you can
roughly
> convert points into percentages but to me, the whole marking system is a
big
> grey area and one that Cisco really need to address. On the 2-day lab I
> would have had some idea on where I would have gone wrong. Now, I am
totally
> in the dark. For example, I thought I'd got the Dial section 100 per cent
> but I get 60 per cent. Why ? I will never know. Show me any book or
> experiences that will help me here. It seems that another factor in the
lab
> exam is insider knowledge and that is wrong. With the majority of
candidates
> I suspect financing their lab exam privately and without the help of
> expensive training sources ( just by private lab practice ), many of us
are
> at a disservice.
>
> I hate to say it but it seems the CCIE is more about who you know than
what
> you know and that's why I won't probably continue on this path because I
> don't have deep pockets but for all of you that aspire, good luck.
>
> Paul.
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