RE: DLSW Custom Queuing.

From: steven.j.nelson@xxxxxx
Date: Wed May 08 2002 - 11:26:23 GMT-3


   
Clear enough Rick...

Thanks

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Bauer, Rick [mailto:BAUERR@toysrus.com]
Sent: 08 May 2002 14:58
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: DLSW Custom Queuing.

This has always been one of those things that makes me go HMMM.

I have always looked at it like this, access list do not apply to traffic
originating from the router, so I use the tcp keyword with port 2065
(queue-list 1 prot ip 16 tcp 2065) when queuing traffic from the router, I
have also heard that the dlsw keyword applies to direct encapsulation only
(but never verified with documentation or testing), I think that you should
use a access-list for queuing when the traffic is passing through the router
from some where else.

Hope I was clear enough, I don't always explain what I am thinking well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ahmed Mamoor Amimi [mailto:mamoor@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:32 AM
To: ying chang; steven.j.nelson@bt.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc: stephen.paynter@bt.com
Subject: Re: DLSW Custom Queuing.

The below that steve have given is the best link for the dlsw queuing and
stuff.

Every where at the CCO i have seen that when u want to give priority or
custom-queue to dlsw they have used the access-list and called the port #s
in it and then applied it to the queuing . I guess this the finest way to do
that.

access-list 100 permit tcp any eq 2065 any
access-list 100 permit tcp any any eq 2065

if using dlsw priority then also do the same for 1981,1982,1983

-Mamoor

----- Original Message -----
From: ying chang <ying_c@hotmail.com>
To: <steven.j.nelson@bt.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Cc: <stephen.paynter@bt.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:49 AM
Subject: RE: DLSW Custom Queuing.

> Steve,
>
> Thanks for the info. However, let's go back to the original question:
>
> "I was wondering does anyone have a URL that outlines the behaviour of
> custom queuing when using DLSw keyword. i.e That this keyword permits SNA
> traffic only and not all DLSw traffic"
>
> The above question troubles me a little bit, because if I interpret the
> statement correctly, what you are saying is if I use the dlsw keyword in
my
> access-list, then SNA traffic will be allowed to go through, but not
NetBIOS
> or other non-routable traffic.
>
> Why a port number has anything to do with different layer's traffic? From
> the web page, I suspect the dlsw keyword probably is the same as port
2065,
> and we'll only have to worry about the port numbers when the priority
queue
> is applied. Otherwise, as far as the custom queue concern, port 2065
should
> be sufficient. I know this contradict with the answers I've seen in the
> past, but I'm more confused than ever when I think about the statement.
>
> Well, I guess I'll have to spend sometime to test it out and see what's
> going on. Until then, if anyone knows when I have to use the the keyword
> "dlsw" and when I should not (other than priority queue), please let me
> know.
>
> Thanks,
> Chang
>
>
> >From: steven.j.nelson@bt.com
> >Reply-To: steven.j.nelson@bt.com
> >To: ying_c@hotmail.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >CC: stephen.paynter@bt.com
> >Subject: RE: DLSW Custom Queuing.
> >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:25:52 +0100
> >
> >Chang Et al,
> >
> >I have found the relevant document on CCO, the URL is :-
> >
> >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/ibsw/ibdlsw/prodlit/dlsw5_rg.htm
> >
> >Interestingly enough it states that ports 2065 is also only used when
> >prioritisation is required.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ying chang [mailto:ying_c@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: 07 May 2002 17:14
> >To: Nelson,SJ,Steven,IVNH25 C; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >Subject: Re: DLSW Custom Queuing.
> >
> >
> >Hi Steve,
> >
> >I also have the same question. Have you verified it can only send SNA
> >traffic already? If you haven't, I would say setup two PCs and see if
> >NetBIOS traffic can pass thru the pipe would be a quick way to verify
this
> >behavior. After you finish this, you can use dspu to see if there's any
SNA
> >circuits. I'm not working on DLSW right now, but please keep me posted,
> >because I'd like to know the answer too.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Chang
> >
> >
> > >From: steven.j.nelson@bt.com
> > >Reply-To: steven.j.nelson@bt.com
> > >To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >Subject: DLSW Custom Queuing.
> > >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:20:26 +0100
> > >
> > >All
> > >
> > >I have noted and tested the scenarios using custom queuing to restrict
> > >bandwidth on an interface based on packet sizes, and I have used as
> > >mentioned in this list the access list for DLSw ports instead of the
DLSw
> > >keyword in the queuing argument.
> > >
> > >I was wondering does anyone have a URL that outlines the behaviour of
> > >custom
> > >queuing when using DLSw keyword.
> > >
> > >i.e That this keyword permits SNA traffic only and not all DLSw
traffic,
> >I
> > >have searched CCO but cannot find any reference to it.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance
> > >
> > >Steve
> > >
> > >Steve Nelson
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