From: Peter Rosenthal (perosenthal@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Apr 30 2002 - 14:53:44 GMT-3
I was referring to study time with the assumption of SOME Cisco experience.
I should have clarified that point.
----- Original Message -----
From: "thomas larus" <tlarus@mwc.edu>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <perosenthal@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: CCIE #9240
> Rosenthal said:
> "But, I will NOT respect anyone just because of a piece
> of paper or the ability to configure 6 routers. It proves very little
> except for a couple months of hard work."
>
> Actually, anyone who could learn IN TWO MONTHS how to configure six
routers to the standard required to pass the CCIE would deserve some
respect.
>
>
>
>
> >>> "Peter Rosenthal" <perosenthal@hotmail.com> 04/30/02 12:40 PM >>>
> The figures absolutely do NOT speak for themselves. If the opportunity
were
> there for Cisco to test 1000's of people per day instead of a few dozen,
the
> numbers would be well on their way to MCSE type numbers. The only thing
> holding it back is capacity and the costs of taking the exam. Make it a
> Sylvan test and open up 1000 racks (hypothetical I know) and I can assure
> you we would have a LOT more CCIE's than 7404. Plus, only in the last
> couple years has every guy off the street decided to become a CCIE in a
few
> months. Notice that the numbers have doubled in the last 2 years compared
> to the 7 years before it. Sure the exam is difficult and a lot more so
than
> the MCSE. But, it is certainly nothing that the average Joe can't
achieve.
> The person that mentioned Mensa made me laugh. Come on guys, this stuff
is
> far from genius.
>
> Certifications are great. They are easy to achieve and it pleases the
> pointy head hiring people. If it wasn't for them, certifications wouldn't
> carry nearly as much weight. I participate in the certification process
and
> don't mind doing so. But, I will NOT respect anyone just because of a
piece
> of paper or the ability to configure 6 routers. It proves very little
> except for a couple months of hard work.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Micheal Knight" <micheal_nite@yaho.com>
> To: "Troy Rader" <troy@onenet.net>; "Robert Carter"
> <Robert.Carter2@telus.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: CCIE #9240
>
>
> > ALL
> >
> > The figure speak for themselves. If CCIE is becoming
> > the next MCSE, how comes there are only 7404 active in
> > the world. Surely there would be ten times or even a
> > hundred times as many CCIE's. But the figures speak
> > for themselves. CCIE is still the most respected and
> > sort after networking qualification, and even if the
> > number doubles or even trebles in the next year or
> > two, say by the end of 2004 we have 25,000 CCIE in the
> > world, hell it will still be no where near as many
> > MCSE's, which know number is the hundred of thousands.
> >
> >
> > Total of Worldwide CCIEs: 7404*
> >
> > Respect and congrats Munib !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > P.S. No one in there right mind can ever conclude that
> > certification will ever replace experience. But
> > certification is here to stay....so you better get
> > used to it!
> >
> > Regards
> > Mike
> >
> > >
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