From: glmorris (glmorris48@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Apr 10 2002 - 22:06:24 GMT-3
In the middle of last year, Cisco relaxed the policy on how many CCIE's a
Partner needed to conduct business rather than making it more stringent...
The CCIE program is all about money these days. Nothing more.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ludwig A. Morales" <morales_l@hotmail.com>
To: "Wes Stevens" <ccie_miami@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE Market Lately
> I agree with you on this, there seems to be a lot of people passing this
day
> but I'm sure it's not because the change on the lab format itself (meaning
> that I don't think it got any easier) maybe it's because there are more
> seats and a easier way to schedule.
>
> Maybe Cisco should assure does people spending time and money getting a
> certification a job opening by requiring more certified individuals
(that's
> the number one reason for companies to employ and certifier individual
this
> day, if not they'll just get someone with field experience and no cert) in
> there partner programs, because if been certified does not guarantee me a
> job I'll simply get the basic knowledge I need to do my day to day job and
> come running to the TAC when something goes wrong.
> I'm certain that CISCO avoid this cert from becoming something like
> Microsoft's by guarantying that accredited individual have full knowledge
in
> the field and by requiring more CCIE's on Silver, and Gold partners,
>
> Regards,
>
> Ludwig A. Morales
> GBM Dominicana "AN IBM Alliance Company"
> Networking Field Engineer, CCNP, CCDP
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wes Stevens" <ccie_miami@hotmail.com>
> To: <bmckenzie@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Market Lately
>
>
> > I think the number of people passing these days are a little out of
wack.
> > The combination of going to the one day lab last year and then adding a
> lot
> > more seats in San Jose and RTP has let a lot of people take the test
that
> > were part of a backlog. Once the backlog gets cleared up the number of
> > people passing will probably slow down.
> >
> > But that is only a small part of the problem. The bottom line is there
> just
> > does not seem to be any jobs out there. Employment lags any economic
> upturn.
> > So we are probably a year away at least till the job market starts to
turn
> > around.
> >
> > I have 14 years working for a stable company. My position here in Miami
> will
> > go away at the end of this year. They will offer me a position in
Houston
> > and my family does not want to move. But I think we will have to. My
first
> > lab try is in June. I really expect to have my ccie before year end, but
> if
> > the market does not pick up it does not look like it will make much
> > difference.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Bill Mckenzie" <bmckenzie@hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Bill Mckenzie" <bmckenzie@hotmail.com>
> > >To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >Subject: CCIE Market Lately
> > >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:56:30 +0000
> > >
> > >I would also like to be included in the responses. Even though I'm
about
> 5
> > >months away from taking the lab, and the numbers seem to be growing
> > >exponentially now, I'm wondering if there will be the jobs out there
for
> > >all
> > >the CCIE's that there will be.
> > >
> > >Bill Mckenzie
> > >
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