From: Bauer, Rick (BAUERR@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Mar 18 2002 - 13:48:54 GMT-3
Thanks to all, I thought that I was the only one thinking these things......
-----Original Message-----
From: thomas larus [mailto:tlarus@mwc.edu]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:28 AM
To: mamoor@ieee.org; msnyder@ldd.net
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: RE: Complimentary gas masks?
It looks like I'm just going to have to try to pass the Lab without using
these famous, excellent labs.
I will not spend a fortune to be treated that way.
There was an article in the Washington Post business section yesterday about
shareware piracy. I drew several important points from it:
1) Your intellectual property protection should not make the product less
usable to the purchaser
2) (Similar to the first point) You should not treat your paying customers
like criminals
3) One software industry person said he'd rather make sure two paying
customers are happy than chasing down eight pirates.
Now the economics of practice labs is different from many shareware
products. The universe of potential CCIE-candidate customers is smaller
with the CCIE practice products than for most shareware products, and a
substantial practice lab set should sell for far more that, say, a shareware
utilty that can be sold to 500,000 people worldwide, and perhaps used
illegally by many more.
There has to be a better way to protect the valuable intellectual property
produced through countless hours of work by highly trained Cisco experts
than by making the product less usable. The protection may be less perfect,
but I cannot be the only potential customer who will simply refuse to buy
lab scenarios that stink or irritate my respiratory tract in any way. I have
a bit more money now than I had a few moths ago, and I had recently decided
that I would buy the labs once I had run through most of my book lab
scenarios and free lab scenarios. I will now have to wait until they work
out this problem, and I can't be the only one who feels this way.
Tom Larus
>>> "Michael Snyder" <msnyder@ldd.net> 03/17/02 2:26 PM >>>
> > Just received the new NLI labs. The odor from the non-copyable
> > material
is
> > overwhelming..
Not a problem, just break out a high pixel digital camera, and a flat
bed document stand. Take a focused picture of each page, run it into
OCR package and print out the labs on regular paper. Problem solved.
Note - I'm not advocating stealing copied righted material. Just
pointing out that if you own the labs, that you could print them out on
regular paper.
Things like non-copyable paper just drive me nuts. Reminds me of not
being able to print out a screen shot off a DVD playing on my computer.
Oh yeah, can't do that, but I could run the VGA DVD feed to my second
computer that has a capture card. Smile.
I know I'm going to get flames from this email, please save them.
Nothing you say, can change the fact that non-copyable paper is
copyable. Which brings up the question of why go the trouble and
expense to of using it. It seems just to challenge people to break the
rules.
Like telling a teenager not to watch a tv show, or listen to a radio
station. It becomes a challenge for them to do what you just told them
not to do.
In the case of the teenager, it's much better to tell them that you like
that radio station. (a sure way of never hearing it played again).
Smile.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Ahmed Mamoor Amimi
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 10:11 PM
To: Sandro Ciffali; Curtis Phillips; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Complimentary gas masks?
I had already torn the book and comply it in a spiral folder.
I think i will be get the glass for me eyes......
-Mamoor
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandro Ciffali <sandyccie@yahoo.com>
To: Curtis Phillips <cphillips@blazenet.net>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Complimentary gas masks?
> Don't forget the poor binding my pages are coming out already..and
yes
you
> need a full lighted room to read the content.
> sandro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Curtis Phillips" <cphillips@blazenet.net>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:42 AM
> Subject: OT: Complimentary gas masks?
>
>
> > Just received the new NLI labs. The odor from the non-copyable
material
is
> > overwhelming..
> >
> > Should be a warning: PLEASE READ ONLY IN
> > WELL-VENTILLATED AREA!!
> >
> > or they should have enclosed complimentary gas masks..
> >
> >
> > LOL
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